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I've read that one must be careful when laundering BDUs and field gear that many detergents will make the fabric light up with most night vision technology.

That being said, what is a good detergent to use?

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See this article. The author recomments SPORT-WASH.

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...For washing ACU’s and BDU’s we recommend the following
WASH INSTRUCTIONS FOR ADVANCED COMBAT UNIFORM

1. Before washing, remove all patches from the coat, and all items from the pockets. Close all hook-and-loop fasteners to prevent snagging.
2. Turn the jacket and trousers inside out before you wash them. (This will help avoid damage to the Velcro and reduce color fading.)
3. Machine wash in cold water with SPORT-WASH, using permanent press cycle, or hand wash using SPORT-WASH. (SPORT-WASH does NOT contain optical brighteners.)
4. Rinse completely (SPORT-WASH is the only detergent University tested and proven to rinse completely).
5. DO NOT WRING OR TWIST. Hang dry or machine dry on low to medium setting, between 140-160 degrees Fahrenheit (for cap do not exceed 130 degrees Fahrenheit).
6. DO NOT USE BLEACH. (CHLORINE or NON- CHLORINE)
7. DO NOT USE FABRIC SOFTENERS.
8. DO NOT DRY CLEAN, STARCH, or COMMERCIALLY HOT PRESS.
9. DO NOT APPLY HEAT OR IRON TO ANY HOOK OR LOOP FASTENER AREAS....

I never realized there was a problem with them. Thanks for bringing it up.

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Besides using a detergent without UV brighteners you must wash you battle clothes in a container that has never been used with a UV brightener.
Don't use washing machines since they all leave several gallons of water in the drum for ballast which would retain some UV brighteners from previous wash loads. Hang the battle clothes up to dry since dryers can transfer UV brighteners too.

The night vision that police helicopters use pick up UV brightened clothes really well.

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Or you can use Ivory soap flakes...no optical brighteners

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Is it true that one can never remove the UV brightener once washed into clothing?

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UV brighteners will work their way out of clothes eventually - but maybe not before you earn that Red Badge of Courage. But if you wash them in a washer and/or dryer that also used UV brighteners, you might be putting them right back in. it might be better to hand-wash them in a tub and hang to dry.

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quote:
Originally posted by Archangel1:
Is it true that one can never remove the UV brightener once washed into clothing?

Hold them under a florescent black light in a dark room and find out.

GE Black light with fixture for $22.84 at Home Depot:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/GE-22-in-Fluorescent-Black-Light-Fixture-10186/202024447

Also beware that some running shoes have reflective strips in them that headlights light up.

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For more information on black light and Ultra Violet fluorescence see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacklight

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I learned the embarrassing way years ago that dandruff shows badly under black light. if you like to wear black outfits when you go clubbing, that's where you want the acrylics or stuff that got brightener mixed in.

A lot of the lower grade nylon gear will show bright in UV light due to the materials. Blackhawk is notorious for using subcontractors who will go entire batches on the stuff that is not set up in stealth colors under UV, and police gear commonly has the brighteners even though it may be black or dark blue. It looks more squared away and they don't really care about hiding from night vision equipment. You want to look out for that in a lot of the OD green stuff because that is also used by a lot of Sheriff Departments and they actually prefer it for IFF.

Hence IR strobes used to mark friendlies. In certain night ops where they are crowding up on a target anyway and situations usually go bright before they go loud.

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Good information Breacher, and I hope everyone here knows that IR strobes are highly visible even with the cheapest first generation night vision devices. Militia should not wear any IR strobes nor IR chemlights.

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I use the No-Oder hunting washes that state on them No UV Brighteners. I run a rinse wash first to clear out any regular laundry remains and then wash the bdu's/other gear.

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One rinse will not clear out all the UV brighteners of a top loading washer and some UV brighteners will still transfer from the dryer. Battle BDU's should be washed in a bucket and hung up to dry.

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At the time all we were told was no starch for BDUs. Nobody in the .mil cared what they were washed with. Of course, we expected to light up the Soviets long before they got within IR range.

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That's all I was ever told about them too.

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Don't believe claims that any detergent is free from UV brighteners. Test the detergent under a black light.

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From this article
http://www.atsko.com/washing-acu-army-combat-uniform
Airforce posted here.

"...People come to us for answers because we are the leading maker of UV control items for the Hunting industry for the last 20 years. People have been asking about safe detergents for the new ACU uniforms. So we went to “The “Army Times” and on “The Patriette” website and found the following detergents listed as safe: Bold Powder, Cheer Liquid, Cheer Powder, All Powder, Surf Powder, and Woolite. THEY ARE NOT SAFE FOR ACU’s or BDU’s, they are full of Optical Brighteners. (Please see the attached un retouched photos of different brands of Laundry Detergents. The left side of each pair is under standard incandescent light while the photo on the right is under 350BLB fluorescent light. You will notice that every detergent glows under UV light except for SPORT-WASH. SPORT-WASH has no brightening agent of any kind, Never had it, Never will.)

The easiest way to be sure these brighteners are not present is to check your detergent with a Black Light, a light source that produces Ultraviolet energy which causes the Optical Brighteners, if present, to glow. We tested the listed detergents. With the exception of only one type of Woolite (Hand & Machine) that has a small amount of brightener present, they are all full of Optical Brighteners or FWA’s. You can easily see this for yourself by checking them with a 350 nm. Black Light, They all glow! This brightness will be permanently transferred to the uniform. The only way to undo the damage is to cover up the Optical Brighteners by applying a UV absorbing Dye. This may sound complicated but it is really easy. Hunters have been doing it for years by spraying their camouflage with U-V-Killer. U-V-Killer is also permanent. As long as you wash the uniform only in a detergent without brighteners (SPORT-WASH) your problem is solved. If you wash your camouflage in a detergent containing Optical Brighteners you must rewash it in Sport-Wash and retreat with U-V-Killer.

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Liquid Cheer has been reformulated and now contains UV brighteners. Don't take the word of any articles that a certain detergent has no UV brighteners in it.

Whatever detergent you are using be sure to test each new bottle or box in the dark under a black-light. Put some in a clear glass and add water then stir if it is a powder. Then illuminate the detergent in question with your black in the dark and see if it lights up or not.

I recently tested Sent Killer Clothing Wash since I could not find any Sports Wash at Walmart. Sent Killer Clothing Wash (from the sporting goods department at Walmart) passed my black-light test as did Ajax Lemon dish detergent.

Here www.amazon.com/Blacklight-Master-LED-UV-Flashlight/dp/B005E6KNCA you can get a LED black-light flashlight at amazon.com for $8.40 including shipping which has a very intense black-light.It is powered by three AAA batteries. You can take it to your next FTX and let everyone test their field clothes with it.

As with all battery powered devices never keep the batteries in it for a long time. All batteries will leak eventually and destroy the contacts of the device.

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I ordered one of those lights, from Amazon...

It arrived very quickly, with batteries (3 AAA), and works as advertised. For less than $9, too.

UV lights have some application in medicine as well (we call them Woods Lamps). A nice little piece of kit.

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Flight-ER-Doc, how is blacklight used in medicine and why are they called woods lamps?

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Picked one up myself, works great

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quote:
Originally posted by Texas Resistance:
Flight-ER-Doc, how is blacklight used in medicine and why are they called woods lamps?

They are used to help diagnose things like fungal infections, to cause foreign bodies to show up better than with visible light, etc. Some things fluoresce under UV light, some quite noticeably.

So-called because of a physicist named Robert Wood, who got the ball rolling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_W._Wood

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