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The US just returned a North Krean soldier who supposedly drifted over in a boat by accident when his motor failed while on patrol of their shoreline. He apparently wanted to go back and was not a defector.

Makes me wonder if someone is playing around with something that fires an EMP beam that kills engines. The Iranians got some of our guys that way a while back.

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If the latest NK missile launch was indeed stopped by such a weapon as a trial, that would account for all the chest beating going on by the globalists.

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quote:
Originally posted by Breacher:
Makes me wonder if someone is playing around with something that fires an EMP beam that kills engines. The Iranians got some of our guys that way a while back.

I've been wondering about EMP use to knock out the patrol boats off the coast of Iran 1-2 years back, to which I assume you allude. Do you have verification that the Iranians used an EMP device to knock out the patrol boats?

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Senators Told North Korea Nuclear Threat Is Urgent Rare White House session hears from Mattis, Tillerson, Coats, Dunford


BY: Bill Gertz Follow @BillGertz
April 26, 2017

The Senate took part in a rare White House briefing on Wednesday to hear what senior leaders described as "an urgent national security threat" posed by North Korea's nuclear and missile programs.

The hour-long secret session for all senators was held at the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, next to the White House, and included a brief appearance from President Trump who made short, introductory remarks.

Marine Corps Gen. Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, also took part in the session. His presence is an indication that military options for dealing with North Korea likely were discussed.

New steps by the administration will include the imposition of additional economic sanctions.

"The United States seeks stability and the peaceful denuclearization of the Korean peninsula. We remain open to negotiations towards that goal. However, we remain prepared to defend ourselves and our allies," Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, and Director of Intelligence Dan Coats said in a joint statement after the briefing.

Trump's approach seeks to pressure North Korea into dismantling nuclear, ballistic missile, and proliferation programs through imposing tighter economic sanctions and diplomatic measures, the three leaders said.

The senior officials noted that past efforts to halt the North Korean illicit arms programs had failed.

"With each provocation, North Korea jeopardizes stability in Northeast Asia and poses a growing threat to our allies and the U.S. homeland," they stated.

Sen. John Barrasso (R., Wyo.) told MSNBC the meeting was "very consequential" and included discussion of North Korea's shift from liquid to solid fuel missiles, and improving nuclear weapons and missile capabilities.

Barrasso said he favors increasing sanctions, including sanctions on China.

Sen. Chris Coons (D., Del.) called the session "very clear-eyed, sober and serious."

Coons told MSNBC the administration is working to avoid a conflict and "making it clear to China how serious we are about preventing North Korea from developing the capability to deliver a nuclear warhead by ICBM against the United States or one of our key allies, and that there are real efforts being made to avoid a misunderstanding or miscalculation because I do think this is a very dangerous circumstance and situation."

The administration recently completed a review of North Korea policy. New policies under consideration are imposing so-called secondary sanctions on North Korea that would be designed to cut off supplies of missile and nuclear goods from places such as China and Russia.

A U.N. panel of experts revealed in a report in February that debris obtained from a North Korean missile flight test last year included Chinese and Russian components.

President Trump pressed Chinese leader Xi Jinping during the recent summit meeting in Florida to pressure North Korea into giving up its nuclear arms and long-range missiles.

During the meeting, Xi told the president that China does not have the leverage over the Kim Jong Un regime in Pyongyang that the U.S. government believes it has, according to a White House official.

China has limited purchases of coal from North Korea but so far has not used its ability to restrict fuel oil exports to North Korea to pressure the regime.

North Korea relies on China for as much as 90 percent of its foreign trade.

White House officials and congressional aides sought to play down the significance of the briefing that comes amid heightened tensions. But all the officials said the threat from North Korea remains serious.

"I think it's really an expression of how seriously the president is taking this, and that he wants to engage with Congress on it," a senior administration official said of the session that has been scheduled for some time and is not a response to any particular event.

The aircraft carrier strike group led by the USS Carl Vinson is expected to arrive near the Korean peninsula in the next day, and a U.S. missile submarine also has been deployed.

The Air Force Strike Command also announced that a U.S. long-range nuclear missile was test fired from Vandenberg Air Force Base, California, on Wednesday. The command called the test of a Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missile "an important demonstration of our nation's nuclear deterrent capability."

The deployment comes as U.S. intelligence agencies are closely watching North Korea for signs of another underground nuclear test, or a long-range missile test.

North Korea earlier this week carried out a large-scale live-fire artillery drill with some 300 to 400 artillery pieces firing into the sea.

North Korea has amassed a large percentage of its forces, including hundreds of artillery pieces along the demilitarized zone separating North and South Korea. The artillery is within range of the South Korean capital of Seoul.

"We are engaging responsible members of the international community to increase pressure on the DPRK in order to convince the regime to de-escalate and return to the path of dialogue," Mattis, Tillerson and Coats said, using the acronym for North Korea.

"We will maintain our close coordination and cooperation with our allies, especially the Republic of Korea and Japan, as we work together to preserve stability and prosperity in the region."

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Kim prepares for war: North Korean leader takes the salute as his army fires rockets and torpedoes at mock enemy warships during country's 'largest ever' live-fire artillery drills

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North Korea tested another missile today,it broke up shortly after launch.

Onward and upward,
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Putin Warns: The Situation In North Korea Has “Seriously Deteriorated”

“We call on all states involved in the region’s affairs to refrain from military rhetoric and seek peaceful, constructive dialogue.”

Mac Slavo | SHTFplan.com -

China Warns: Situation With North Korea “At A Critical Point”

Sec of State Tillerson: inaction would bring catastrophic consequences

Clifford Cunningham | Infowars.com

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Trump warns North Korea's missiles will get better

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — President Donald Trump said after North Korea's latest failed rocket launch that communist leader Kim Jong-Un will eventually develop better missiles, and "we can't allow it to happen."

In a taped interview broadcast Sunday on CBS' "Face the Nation," the president would not discuss the possibility of military action, saying: "It is a chess game. I just don't want people to know what my thinking is."

Separately, Trump's national security adviser, Army Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, said North Korea's most recent missile test represents "open defiance of the international community." He said North Korea poses "a grave threat," not just to the U.S. and its Asian allies, but also to China.

Speaking on "Fox News Sunday," McMaster said it is important "for all of us to confront this regime, this regime that is pursuing the weaponization of a missile with a nuclear weapon."

"This is something that we know we cannot tolerate," McMaster said...

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WND ANALYSIS Decades of nuclear blackmail spawned 'major, major' North Korea crisis

http://www.wnd.com/2017/04/decades-of-nuclear-blackmail-spawned-major-major-north-korea-crisis/

The Real Reason for Attacking NK

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N.K. claims U.S. strategic bombers flew over Korea early this week

SEOUL, May 2 (Yonhap) -- North Korea claimed Tuesday that U.S. B-1B strategic bombers made flights over the Korean Peninsula early this week in an exercise on dropping nuclear bombs, saying that Washington is to blame for rising tensions.

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Chinese Troops Training For Refugee Influx on North Korean Border

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Strategy of 'Strategic Impatience' with North Korea

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Report: U.S. THAAD Missile Defense System “May Not Be Capable Of Actually Intercepting North Korean Nukes”

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Anyone else notice something odd?

For weeks the media was hysterical about the NK missle crisis...telling us nuclear war was imminent...

Now nothing...like it never happened.

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Looks like I spoke too soon.

Kim Jong-Un fires ANOTHER ballistic missile 400 miles towards Japan - after months threatening Trump with nuclear war and days after a new president took office in South Korea

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Something odd about that missile - it reached an altitude of 1250 miles. Most ICBM's never actually leave the atmosphere. The space station is only 250 miles up.

If it were put on a standard trajectory, it would probably have a range of 2500 to 3000 miles. That's not far enough to reach Hawaii or the mainland U.S., but it could reach Guam.

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Read a news report a couple of days ago that said the recent failed NK missile test may not have been a failure. Apparently it detonated at the perfect height to set of an emp. The author thought it may have been a "test run".

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North Korea fires medium-range missile in latest test

SEOUL, South Korea -- North Korea on Sunday fired a medium-range missile, U.S. and South Korean officials said, in the latest ballistics test for a country speeding up its development of nuclear weapons and missiles.

One U.S. official said it appeared to be a successful test of the land-based version of North Korea's sub-launched missile, CBS News national security correspondent David Martin reports.

The solid-fuel missile that was launched was the second successful test of a missile that the U.S. calls KN-15, Martin reports.

The rocket was fired from an area near the North Korean county of Pukchang, in South Phyongan Province, and flew eastward about 310 miles, South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said. It did not immediately provide more details.

White House officials traveling in Saudi Arabia with President Trump said the system, which was last tested in February, has a shorter range than the missiles launched in North Korea's most recent tests.

U.S. Pacific Command said it tracked the missile until it landed into the sea.

The United Nations Security Council plans to hold urgent consultations following the missile test. Council diplomats say the closed discussion was requested by the U.S., Japan and South Korea and will take place Tuesday. The diplomats spoke on condition of anonymity because the meeting has not been officially announced.

"The North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) assessed that the missile launch from North Korea did not pose a threat to North America," Commander Dave Benham, director of media operations for U.S. Pacific Command, said in a statement.

"U.S. Pacific Command stands behind our ironclad commitment to the security of our allies in the Republic of Korea and Japan," the statement said.

South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said in a statement that the country's military "is closely monitoring the North Korean military for any further provocation and maintaining readiness to respond."

In February, North Korea used a launcher truck to fire a midrange solid-fuel missile that it calls the Pukguksong (Polaris)-2, a land-based version of a submarine-launched missile the country revealed earlier. That missile traveled about 500 kilometers before crashing into the sea, according to South Korean and U.S. officials.

The February launch, the North's first missile test after Trump took office, alarmed neighbors because solid-fuel missiles can be fired more quickly than liquid-fuel missiles, which need to be fueled before launch and require a larger number of vehicles, including fuel trucks, that could be spotted by satellites.

The North's latest launch came a week after North Korea successfully tested a new midrange missile that Pyongyang said could carry a heavy nuclear warhead. Experts said that rocket flew higher and for a longer time than any other missile previously tested by North Korea, and that it could one day reach targets as far away as Hawaii and Alaska.

That missile launch showed that North Korea's technology seems to be getting more sophisticated, and it represented a significant advance for Kim Jung Un and his nuclear weapons program, Martin reported. U.S. officials said it appeared to have been a test of a reentry vehicle, a key technology North Korea must master before it can develop an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of striking the U.S. mainland with a nuclear weapon.

Under the watch of third-generation dictator Kim Jong Un, North Korea has been aggressively pursuing a decades-long goal of putting a nuclear warhead on an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of reaching the U.S. mainland.

North Korea conducted two nuclear tests last year alone, possibly improving its knowledge on making nuclear weapons small enough to fit on long-range missiles. The country has also conducted a slew of rocket launches as it continues to advance its arsenal of ballistic weapons, which also include midrange solid-fuel missiles that could be fired from land mobile launchers or submarines.

Such tests present a difficult challenge to new South Korean President Moon Jae-in, a liberal who took office on May 10 and has expressed a desire to reach out to North Korea. Pyongyang's aggressive push to boost its weapons program also makes it one of the most urgent foreign policy concerns for the Trump administration, though Washington has struggled to settle on a policy.

Sunday's missile launch came hours after Moon named his new foreign minister nominee and top advisers for security and foreign policy.

Moon held a National Security Council meeting at the presidential Blue House to discuss the launch, his office said.

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Breaking: North Korea Launches Multiple Ballistic Missiles

Projectiles believed to be surface-to-ship missiles

Mikael Thalen | Infowars.com - June 7, 2017

North Korea launched multiple ballistic missiles off its east coast Thursday, the South Korean military has said.

According to a statement from the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the projectiles are believed to be surface-to-ship missiles.

The South Korean military later added that the missiles flew more than 200 kilometers before falling into the East Sea.

“North Korea fired multiple unidentified projectiles, assumed to be surface-to-ship missiles, this morning from the vicinity of Wonsan, Gangwon Province,” the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) said, according to the Yonhap news agency.

The launches come shortly after the newly elected South Korean government confirmed it would suspend further deployment of the US Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) missile defense system intended to protect the country from North Korea.

Although two previously-installed launchers of the THAAD system will remain deployed, four others will not be added until an environmental impact assessment is completed.

Thursday’s launch, which is the fourth missile test since Moon became president, also comes less than one week after the United Nations Security Council passed new sanctions against the Kim regime.

This story is developing and will be updated as information becomes available.

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Missile launched by North Korea was intermediate range, not ICBM – Russian Defense Ministry

The Russian Defense Ministry has stated that North Korea launched an intermediate range missile on Tuesday morning

RT - July 4, 2017


The Russian Defense Ministry has stated that North Korea launched an intermediate range missile on Tuesday morning. The missile flew around 535 kilometers, reaching an altitude of 510 kilometers, and fell into the Sea of Japan, according to military data.

The missile test carried out by Pyongyang on Tuesday morning did not pose a threat to Russia, the defense ministry said in a statement.

“The launch was carried out in a direction away from Russia’s borders, and did not pose a threat to the Russian Federation,” the Russian military stated.

Russia’s missile warning system tracked the launch from North Korean territory, according to the military officials.

“The launch of a ballistic missile, carried out on July 4 at 3:46am Moscow time from a North Korean firing ground was recorded and tracked by Russia’s missile warning system,” an MoD statement said.

North Korea claimed that it had successfully launched its first intercontinental ballistic missile on Tuesday morning. Pyongyang said its Hwasong-14 ICBM flew some 933 kilometers in 39 minutes reaching an altitude of 2,802 kilometers, according to the country’s state television.

North Korea has repeatedly warned the US and its Asian allies, which conduct joint drills near the Korean Peninsula, that it would launch more missile and nuclear tests.

An intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) launched from North Korea would be able to reach and strike the United States, as such missiles can cover a distance of more than of 5,500 kilometers, while intermediate-range ballistic missiles (IRBM) have a much shorter range and pose no threat to the US.

The US military identified the projectile fired by North Korea as a single, land-based, intermediate range ballistic missile. American military data indicates that it flew some 930 kilometers in 37 minutes before falling into the Sea of Japan.

US President Donald Trump mocked North Korea’s latest missile test immediately after the launch, suggesting that the country’s leader, Kim Jong-un, doesn’t have “anything better to do with his life” than fire off missiles.

North Korea has just launched another missile. Does this guy have anything better to do with his life? Hard to believe that South Korea…..

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 4, 2017

Trump also urged China to exert more pressure on the North and “end this nonsense once and for all.” Meanwhile, Beijing called for calm and restraint from all sides, while condemning North Korea’s latest test, which violated UN Security Council resolutions.

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North Korea Says Newly Tested Mobile ICBM Can Carry Nuke

July 05, 2017

On Wednesday North Korea announced its newly tested mobile ICBM can carry a large nuclear warhead, triggering the west to hold emergency defense meetings

(SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA) North Korea said on Wednesday its newly developed intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) can carry a large nuclear warhead, triggering a call by Washington for global action to hold it accountable for pursuing nuclear weapons.

A spokeswoman for the U.S. Defense Department said it had concluded that North Korea test-launched an ICBM on Tuesday, which some experts now believe had the range to reach the U.S. state of Alaska as well as parts of the mainland United States.

U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said the test, on the eve of the U.S. Independence Day holiday, represented "a new escalation of the threat" to the United States and its allies, and vowed to take stronger measures.

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un said the test completed his country's strategic weapons capability that includes atomic and hydrogen bombs and ICBMs, the state KCNA news agency said.

Pyongyang would not negotiate with the United States to give up those weapons until Washington abandons its hostile policy against the North, KCNA quoted Kim as saying.

"He, with a broad smile on his face, told officials, scientists and technicians that the U.S. would be displeased ... as it was given a 'package of gifts' on its 'Independence Day'," KCNA said.

Kim ordered them to "frequently send big and small 'gift packages' to the Yankees," it added.

The test successfully verified the technical requirements of the newly developed ICBM in stage separation, the atmospheric re-entry of the warhead and the late-stage control of the warhead, KCNA said.

The launch was carried out by a mobile, not stationary, platform, meaning the weapon could potentially be deployed throughout North Korea, making it harder for the United States to track.

The North's state media said the missile, Hwasong-14, flew 933 km (580 miles), reaching an altitude of 2,802 km (1,741 miles) in its 39 minutes of flight.

Some analysts said the flight details suggested the new missile had a range of more than 8,000 km (4,970 miles), which would put significant parts of the U.S. mainland in range, a major advance in the North's program.

The launch was both earlier and "far more successful than expected", said U.S.-based missile expert John Schilling, a contributor to the Washington-based North Korea monitoring project, 38 North.

It would now probably only be a year or two before a North Korean ICBM achieved "minimal operational capability," he added.

In response, U.S. and South Korean troops fired missiles into the waters off South Korea in a show of force, the U.S. military said on Tuesday

"The deep strike precision capability enables the (South Korean)-U.S. alliance to engage the full array of time critical targets under all weather conditions," the U.S. Army said in a statement, adding that the Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS) and the Republic of Korea's Hyunmoo Missile II were utilized.

As President Trump left for Poland on his way to the G-20 meeting in Hamburg later this week, the U.S. president took a shot at China over their role in the North Korea crisis.

On his way to Warsaw this morning, President Trump tweeted: "Trade between China and North Korea grew almost 40% in the first quarter. So much for China working with us - but we had to give it a try!"

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Looks like NK just launched another ballistic missile. https://www.rt.com/news/397858-north-korea-missile-test-japan/
This could be interesting. I'm not totally convinced that China will be on our side should there be retaliation.

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Just saw this.

Experts Warn North Korea Capable of Striking U.S. Mainland After ICBM Test

Targets as far as New York City and Washington D.C. may now be within range

Mikael Thalen | Infowars.com - July 28, 2017

The test launch of an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) by North Korea Friday confirms Pyongyang’s ability to strike the U.S. mainland, experts warn.

The missile, which reached an altitude of 3,700km during its 47 minute flight, came down into the waters off of Japan’s west coast after being launched from Mupyong-ni, Chagang province, at 11:11 p.m. local time. Had the projectile been launched on a normal trajectory, analysts say the ICBM may have reached as far as Washington D.C.

“Based on the July 28 launch, preliminary impressions are that North Korea would be capable of easily ranging the contiguous United States…” The Diplomat’s Ankit Panda writes.

“The July 28 test would suggest that North Korea could potentially reach targets as far away as New York City and Washington, DC, depending on the size of its weapons payload.”

While the missile type has yet to be confirmed, the Hwasong-14, used in North Korea’s first ever ICBM test launch on July 4, remains the prime suspect. If confirmed, a comparison between Friday’s launch (yellow) and the July 4 test (red) suggests Pyongyang did not originally display the Hwasong-14’s full capabilities.

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Source: Scott LaFoy @wslafoy

Calculations from David Wright, physicist and co-director of the UCS Global Security Program, likewise found that major US cities are now within range of Pyongyang’s long-range missile. With an estimated reach of anywhere between 10,400km and 11,000km, a North Korean ICBM could easily reach Denver and Chicago.

“Los Angeles, Denver, and Chicago appear to be well within range of this missile, and that Boston and New York may be just within range. Washington, D.C. may be just out of range,” Wright said, noting that everything from the earth’s rotation to the mass of the payload could alter the figures.

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Source: David Wright, All Things Nuclear blog

While North Korea is not believed to have a nuclear device capable of surviving an ICBM’s reentry stage, a new assessment from the ­Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) has removed two full years off the timetable for when the communist regime is expected to obtain the technical prowess.

“The DIA has concluded that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un will be able to produce a ‘reliable, nuclear-capable ICBM’ program sometime in 2018, meaning that by next year the program will have advanced from prototype to assembly line, according to officials familiar with the document,” the Washington Post reports.

The U.S. and South Korea staged a joint ballistic missile exercise in response to North Korea’s ICBM launch, reported South Korea’s Yonhap News Agency.

WATCH: Pentagon releases video of US-SKorea live missile firing exercise that was conducted in response to NKorea ICBM launch. pic.twitter.com/T3HjIduyUB

— NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) July 28, 2017

In a unexpected move, South Korea, which originally rejected the additional deployment of Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) launchers from the United States, also signaled its desire Friday to place new components of the missile defense system on its border with the North. Though the missile defense system is incapable of stopping ICBM’s, South Korean President Moon Jae-in has signaled a willingness to strengthen the nation’s defenses.

A growing number of politicians in South Korea, skeptical of the United States’ willingness to defend Seoul in the event of an attack, are also calling on the Moon government to begin developing nuclear weapons – stirring global fears of nuclear proliferation in the Korean peninsula.

The Trump administration has focused primarily on using sanctions against Chinese entities in an effort to derail North Korea’s missile and nuclear weapons programs. Experts are increasingly calling on the White House to enter into diplomatic negotiations with Pyongyang as the country’s capabilities become increasingly clear.

According to the Pentagon, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Joseph Dunford and Admiral Harry Harris, the 24th Commander, United States Pacific Command, reached out to the Republic of Korea Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Lee Sun-jin to discuss potential military options.

“During the call Dunford and Harris expressed the ironclad commitment to the U.S.-Republic of Korea alliance,” a Pentagon statement said. “The three leaders also discussed military response options.”
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McMaster: U.S. Preparing For “Preventive War” With North Korea

The president said he has been clear he will not tolerate North Korea’s threats to attack the U.S. with nuclear weapons

Zero Hedge - August 6, 2017

The United States is preparing for all options to counter the growing threat from North Korea, including launching a “preventive war,” national security adviser H.R. McMaster said in an interview that aired Saturday on MSNBC. The comments come after North Korea carried out two tests of intercontinental ballistic missiles in the past month and after the president said he has been clear he will not tolerate North Korea’s threats to attack the U.S. with nuclear weapons.

The key excerpts (full transcript):

H.H.: Let me switch if I can to North Korea, which is really pressing. And– and remind our audience, at the Aspen Institute ten days ago, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Joe Dunford, said, “There’s always a military– option. It would be horrific.” Lindsey Graham on Today Show earlier this week said– “We need to destroy the regime and their deterrent.” Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said on Tuesday, I believe, to North Korea, “You are leaving us no choice but to protect ourselves.” And then the Chairman of the Chief of Staff of the Army said, “Just because every choice is a bad choice doesn’t mean you don’t have to choose.” Are we looking at a preemptive strike? Are you trying to prepare us, you being collectively, the administration and people like Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton for a first strike North Korea?
H.R.M. Well, we really, what you’re asking is– is are we preparing plans for a preventive war, right? A war that would prevent North Korea from threatening the United States with a nuclear weapon. And the president’s been very clear about it. He said, “He’s not gonna tolerate North Korea being able to threaten the United States” if they have nuclear weapons that can threaten the United States; It’s intolerable from the president’s perspective. So of course, we have to provide all options to do that. And that includes a military option.

Now, would we like to resolve it short of what would be a very costly war, in terms of– in terms of the suffering of mainly the South Korean people? The– the ability of– of that North– North Korean regime to hold the South hostage to conventional fire’s capabilities, artillery and so forth, Seoul being so close. We’re cognizant of all of that. And so what we have to do is– is everything we can to– to pressure this regime, to pressure Kim Jong-un and those around him such that they conclude, it is in their interest to denuclearize. And there are really I think three critical things, came out of the president’s very successful summit with– President Xi of China that were different– that were different from past efforts to work with China, which has always been, you know, the– the desire, right, to work with China– on the– on the North Korean problem.

How many casualties will there be:

HH: In 1994, when the first North Korean deal with signed, the people who executed it, Gallucci, Dan Poneman, Joe Wit wrote a book. And they quoted a general saying, “If there is a conflict,” called Going Critical, “there will be a million casualties.” A million casualties. Is that still a good estimate of what happens if– preemptive strike unfolds in North Korea, General?
HRM: You know, one thing about war. It’s impossible oftentimes to predict. It’s always impossible to predict the future course of events. Because war is a continuous interaction of opposites, a continuous interaction between your forces and those of the enemy. It involves not just the capability to use force, but also intentions and things that are just unknowable at the outset. And so I think it’s important to– to look at– range of estimates of what could happen, because it’s clear that at war, it’s unpredictable. And so you always have to ask the question, “What happens next? What are the risks? How do you mitigate those risks?” And– and obviously, you know, war is– is– is the most serious decision any leader has to make. And so what can we do to make sure we exhaust our possibilities and exhaust our other opportunities to accomplish this very clear objective of denuclearization of the peninsula short of war?

Should Americans be concerned:

HH: How concerned should the American people be that we are actually on the brink of a war with North Korea?
HRM: Well, I think it’s impossible to overstate the danger associated with this. Right, the, so I think it’s impossible to overstate the danger associated with a rogue, brutal regime, I mean, who murdered his own brother with nerve agent in an airport. “I mean, think about what he’s done in terms of his own brutal repression of not only members of his regime but his own family,” McMaster added.

On Tuesday, Sen. Lindsey Graham said that the president told him there would be a war with North Korea if the regime continues to try to hit America with an ICBM. Appearing on the Today Show, the South Carolina Republican Senator said that President Trump has indicated to him that the administration is prepared to strike North Korea to prevent an attack against the U.S. Pushed on by Matt Lauer on whether a viable military option exists in the region, Graham responded: “They’re wrong. There is a military option to destroy North Korea’s program and North Korea itself.”


The Hwasong-14 ICBM seen during its test in this undated photo released by
North Korea’s Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) in Pyongyang, July 5 2017.

As reported last Friday, North Korea claimed that its latest missiles can now strike anywhere in the United States, delivering nuclear warheads. Experts have said that the country’s missile program has greatly accelerated in recent months putting it far ahead of previous predictions about when it could launch reliable long-range missiles. Speaking to Newsweek in recent days, several experts said that an attack would be the deadliest the U.S. has ever received and potentially kill more than 100,000 people if it struck in large population centers like New York City or Los Angeles.

“I’m not going to confirm [whether the latest ICBM could reach anywhere in the U.S.] but whether it could reach San Francisco or Pittsburgh or Washington, I mean how much does that matter? It’s a grave threat,” McMaster said.

He added: “It’s impossible to overstate the danger associated with a rogue, brutal regime.”

McMaster cautioned that he was aware of the fact that any strike against North Korea could bring about a “very costly war” that would cause immense “suffering of mainly the South Korean people.”

Last month, CIA Director Mike Pompeo floated another option for dealing with the North Korea threat, saying that he was “hopeful we will find a way to separate that regime from this system.” North Korea responded by threatening swift and brutal consequences for any attempt to topple Kim.

“Should the U.S. dare to show even the slightest sign of an attempt to remove our supreme leadership, we will strike a merciless blow at the heart of the U.S. with our powerful nuclear hammer, honed and hardened over time,” a foreign ministry spokesman said.

Still, McMaster did not rule out such an attempt when asked whether it could be a legitimate tool. “I think it depends on the legal justifications for that. And this goes back to just war theory. And what is the nature of the risk? And does that risk justify acting in defense of your people and your vital interests?”

Last week, the local press reported that South Korea’s military is preparing a “surgical strike” scenario that could wipe out NOrth Korean command and missile and nuclear facilities following an order by S.Korea’s president Moon Jae-In.

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North Korea 'now making missile-ready nuclear weapons'

Crosses key threshold on path to becoming full-fledged power

(WASHINGTON POST) — North Korea has successfully produced a miniaturized nuclear warhead that can fit inside its missiles, crossing a key threshold on the path to becoming a full-fledged nuclear power, U.S. intelligence officials have concluded in a confidential assessment.

The new analysis completed last month by the Defense Intelligence Agency comes on the heels of another intelligence assessment that sharply raises the official estimate for the total number of bombs in the communist country’s atomic arsenal. The U.S. calculated last month that up to 60 nuclear weapons are now controlled by North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. Some independent experts believe the number of bombs is much smaller.

The findings are likely to deepen concerns about an evolving North Korean military threat that appears to be advancing far more rapidly than many experts had predicted. U.S. officials last month concluded that Pyongyang is also outpacing expectations in its effort to build an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of striking cities on the American mainland.


NKorea Responds: “Seriously Considering” Pre-Emptive Strike On Guam

NKorea responds to “fire and fury” comment from Trump

Zero Hedge - August 8, 2017

Challenge accepted.

If Trump thought that his bluff would be sufficient to finally shut up North Korea, and put an end to Kim’s provocative behavior, well… bluff called because North Korea’s state-run KCNA news agency reported moments ago that not only did N. Korea escalate the tensions up another notch, but explicitly warned that it could carry out a “pre-emptive operation once the US shows signs of provocation”, and that it is “seriously considering a strategy to strike Guam with mid-to-long range missiles.”

From Reuters:

N. KOREA WARNS OF OPERATION ON SIGNS OF U.S. PROVOCATION: KCNA
N. KOREA SAYS U.S. WAR HYSTERIA TO BRING MISERABLE END: KCNA
N. KOREA CAN STRIKE BEFORE ANY U.S. PRE-EMPTIVE ATTACK: KCNA
N.KOREA SAYS IT COULD CARRY OUT PRE-EMPTIVE OPERATION ONCE U.S. SHOWS SIGNS OF PROVOCATION -KCNA CITING MILITARY SPOKESMAN
N.KOREA SAYS IT IS SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING STRATEGY TO STRIKE GUAM WITH MID-TO-LONG RANGE MISSILES -KCNA
N.KOREA SAYS STRIKE ON GUAM WILL BE CARRIED OUT IN A CONSECUTIVE, SUCCESSIVE WAY ONCE LEADER KIM JONG UN GIVES ORDER

Needless to say, with both leaders determined to keep escalating until the adversary folds, this seemingly inevitable military conflict will not have a happy ending.

Red Alert! Trump Warns N Korea: U.S Ready To Respond With 'Fire & Fury' https://t.co/xp6c9ohKfC #infowars #usa #ThursdayThoughts

— Alex Jones (@RealAlexJones) August 8, 2017

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Here's Pastor Chuck Balwin:

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Pro-war Neocon Zionist Globalist Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) has said that President Trump told him in no uncertain terms that we ARE going to war with North Korea.

I sincerely pray that Graham is just spouting his typical pro-war neocon verbiage and that Trump didn't actually say that. Unfortunately, Donald Trump has shown--and continues to show--a strong propensity for war.

I have always been of the opinion that when the globalist elite are ready to take the world into nuclear war, it would begin with North Korea.


I sure wish evangelical pastors and Christians would repent of their devilish war fever and STOP beating the war drums. Without Christians constantly trumpeting their support for U.S. wars of aggression, GOP politicians like Lindsey Graham and John McCain would be impotent to foment war fever in Washington, D.C.

Jesus said, "Blessed are the peacemakers." Sadly, televangelists like John Hagee--and thousands of like minded pastors--have duped a majority of evangelical Christians into supporting all of these wars for Israel and have thereby turned Christians into the country's biggest warmongers.

The American people have been stupid to allow their politicians in Washington, D.C., (in BOTH parties) to not heed the warning of our Founding Fathers to stay clear from entangling alliances with foreign nations--ALL foreign nations, including Israel.

We will find out just how stupid we have been when the first nuclear warhead hits the first American city.

Lindsey Graham is a pathological liar. I PRAY that's all he's doing now. And if he is, it would be nice to hear President Trump say so.

A madman with nukes is not a good thing. And having Kim Jong Un have one too, well....

Onward and upward,
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We wouldn't have to deal with this mess today if we had finished the job in 53.

If we have to do it again we should not stop until NK has been totally annihilated.

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My father tried to reenlist in the Navy during the Korean War, but he couldn't pass the physical (he was wounded in a kamikaze attack off Okinawa).

My folks hated Truman after he fired MacArthur. Not enough to change their party registration, because aside from a few crackpots, there were no Republicans in Oklahoma back then. But they sure didn't vote for too many Democrats after that.

What would I have done? It sticks in my craw, but I suppose I would have done the same thing Truman did. You can't win a war of attrition with China, so it would most likely have turned into a nuke war with Russia. There just were no good choices.

Onward and upward,
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Like Nam, we shouldn't have been involved in the first place.

Had a uncle at Okinawa. His description of it was pretty bad.

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Mattis Speaks to Kim in Words He Will Understand

Secretary of Defense James Mattis sent another strongly worded reminder to North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un that the U.S. isn't going to back down in the current standoff over the Hermit Kingdom's nuclear missile program.

August 10, 2017

Secretary of Defense James Mattis had a stern message Wednesday for North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un—spoken, as Secretary of State Rex Tillerson put it—in words he could understand.

In a statement released by the Defense Department, the secretary responded to North Korean threats to Guam, a U.S. island territory in the Central Pacific:

The United States and our allies have the demonstrated capabilities and unquestionable commitment to defend ourselves from an attack. Kim Jong Un should take heed of the United Nations Security Council’s unified voice, and statements from governments the world over, who agree the DPRK poses a threat to global security and stability. The DPRK must choose to stop isolating itself and stand down its pursuit of nuclear weapons. The DPRK should cease any consideration of actions that would lead to the end of its regime and the destruction of its people … The DPRK regime’s actions will continue to be grossly overmatched by ours and would lose any arms race or conflict it initiates.

Earlier in the day, Tillerson defended President Donald Trump’s “fire and fury” comments directed at Kim, saying he was “sending a strong message to North Korea in language that Kim Jong-un can understand.” Kim may need another strong message, though, after tripling down on his threat against Guam.

The North Korean government said Thursday its attack plans would be finalized within the next week or two. It later stated the attack would likely be a “blanketing” volley of missiles at the island.

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Chinese paper says China should stay neutral if North Korea attacks first

BEIJING (Reuters) - If North Korea launches an attack that threatens the United States then China should stay neutral, but if the United States attacks first and tries to overthrow North Korea's government China will stop them, a Chinese state-run newspaper said on Friday.

President Donald Trump ratcheted up his rhetoric toward North Korea and its leader on Thursday, warning Pyongyang against attacking Guam or U.S. allies after it disclosed plans to fire missiles over Japan to land near the U.S. Pacific territory.

China, North Korea's most important ally and trading partner, has reiterated calls for calm during the current crisis. It has expressed frustration with both Pyongyang's repeated nuclear and missile tests and with behavior from South Korea and the United States that it sees as escalating tensions.

The widely read state-run Global Times, published by the ruling Communist Party's official People's Daily, wrote in an editorial that Beijing is not able to persuade either Washington or Pyongyang to back down.

"It needs to make clear its stance to all sides and make them understand that when their actions jeopardize China's interests, China will respond with a firm hand," said the paper, which does not represent government policy.

"China should also make clear that if North Korea launches missiles that threaten U.S. soil first and the U.S. retaliates, China will stay neutral," it added.

"If the U.S. and South Korea carry out strikes and try to overthrow the North Korean regime and change the political pattern of the Korean Peninsula, China will prevent them from doing so."

China has long worried that any conflict on the Korean peninsula, or a repeat of the 1950-53 Korean war, could unleash a wave of destabilizing refugees into its northeast, and could end up with a reunified county allied with the United States.

North Korea is a useful buffer state for China between it and U.S. forces based in South Korea, and also across the sea in Japan.

The Global Times said China will "firmly resist any side which wants to change the status quo of the areas where China's interests are concerned".

"The Korean Peninsula is where the strategic interests of all sides converge, and no side should try to be the absolute dominator of the region."

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North Korea Backs Down from Guam Attack Plan
Kim Jong Un says plan on hold unless “the Yankees persist in their extremely dangerous reckless actions”


Mikael Thalen | Infowars.com - August 15, 2017

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un announced he would not move forward with plans Tuesday to launch missiles near the Pacific Island of Guam.

Kim, who threatened last week to potentially send four Hwasong-12 intermediate-range ballistic missiles into waters off the U.S. territory’s coast, said plans to do so were on hold unless “the Yankees persist in their extremely dangerous reckless actions.”

“If the Yankees persist in their extremely dangerous reckless actions on the Korean Peninsula and in its vicinity, testing the self-restraint of the DPRK, the [North] will make an important decision as it already declared,” Kim said.

North Korean state media asserted that Kim’s decision followed a visit to a military command post where he reviewed an attack scenario prepared by senior officers.

Kim’s threats, partly in response to repeated B-1B flyovers originating from Guam’s Anderson Air Force Base, came just hours after President Donald Trump warned of “fire and fury” if the regime continued its provocative statements.

The announcement from Kim also called on the U.S. to “stop at once arrogant provocations against the DPRK and unilateral demands and not provoke it any longer.”

In response to Kim’s choice, U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson told reporters Tuesday that the United States remains open to talks with the regime.

“We continue to be interested in finding a way to get to dialogue but that’s up to him,” Tillerson said.

As noted by North Korea expert Ankit Panda, Kim’s announcement to step back from a potential attack, while not at all unexpected given its severity, may not be easily explained away by U.S. deterrence alone.

“First, by deciding not to proceed with the launch, Kim appears to have expressed an intent to deescalate,” Panda writes at The Diplomat. “Tuesday’s statement includes a paragraph that begins ‘In order to defuse the tensions and prevent the dangerous (sic) military conflict on the Korean peninsula’ and goes on to open the door to an exchange on equal terms with the United States — something akin to the ‘freeze for freeze’ proposal that has seen Chinese and Russian backing recently.”

Kim’s statement, Panda further argues, sets up “a highly provocative coercive bargaining scenario” that still leaves the threat to strike near Guam on the table.

While potentially coincidental, B1-B patrols in the Korean Peninsula also ceased following Kim’s threats against Guam.

“North Korea had specifically underlined B-1B flights as its chief concern, prompting it [to] prepare for preemptive ballistic missile strikes against Guam,” Panda adds. “The U.S. decision not to fly B-1Bs may have been happenstance, in this case; flights tend to occur with an interval greater than seven days.”

Although a back-and-forth of bellicose threats between Kim and Trump continue on the forefront, reports indicate that both countries have spent the past several months communicating through a diplomatic backchannel.

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North Korea Releases Photos of Purported Thermonuclear Weapon

Pyongyang claims alleged weapon can be detonated at high altitudes for “EMP attack”

Mikael Thalen | Infowars.com - September 2, 2017

North Korea released photos Sunday of what it claims is a thermonuclear weapon designed to fit atop an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM).

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According to a statement from the Korean Central News Agency (KCNA), North Korean leader Kim Jong Un visited the country’s Nuclear Weapons Institute and later watched what Pyongyang describes as an “H-bomb” (hydrogen bomb) being loaded onto a missile.

“The institute recently succeeded in making a more developed nuke, true to the strategic intention of the WPK for bringing about a signal turn in nuclear weaponization,” an English translation of the statement reads. “He watched an H-bomb to be loaded into new ICBM.”

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Pyongyang said the weapon could be used for an Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) attack by detonating the warhead at high altitudes.

“The H-bomb, the explosive power of which is adjustable from tens kiloton to hundreds kiloton, is a multi-functional thermonuclear nuke with great destructive power which can be detonated even at high altitudes for super-powerful EMP attack according to strategic goals,” KCNA said.

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Kim also asserted that the components for the alleged hydrogen bomb were “homemade,” which allows the country “to produce powerful nuclear weapons as many as it wants.”

While the technical advancements of North Korea’s weapons program have surpassed the expectations of many, experts remain cautious on Pyongyang’s latest claims given the lack of independent verification.

Regardless, North Korea is attempting “to signal it has advanced thermonuclear nuclear weapons ready today,” Adam Mount, a nuclear and defense policy expert, said Saturday.

“We cannot be certain whether DPRK has achieved this technology, but we know they have been signaling their intention to for some time.”

U.S. President Donald Trump and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe spoke over the phone shortly after the photos were released, Japan’s NHK reported.

North Korea last year carried out its fourth and fifth nuclear tests, alleging the fourth to be that of a hydrogen bomb. Experts were skeptical and believed that a boosted fission weapon was likely used given the smaller than expected seismic activity at the Punggye-ri test site.

Satellite photos from last month also suggest North Korea may be preparing for its sixth nuclear weapons test.

Reports from early August on a confidential U.S. intelligence assessment from the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency argued that Pyongyang had already produced a nuclear weapon for its ICBM.

“The IC [intelligence community] assesses North Korea has produced nuclear weapons for ballistic missile delivery, to include delivery by ICBM-class missiles,” the document states.

Tensions remain high on the Korean Peninsula following Pyongyang’s launch late last month of a Hwasong-12 intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM) that overflew the Northern Japanese island of Hokkaido.

Earthquake at North Korea’s Nuclear Test Site Following Hydrogen Bomb Announcement “Explosion” detected at North Korea’s underground nuclear test site

Mikael Thalen | Infowars.com - September 2, 2017

A large earthquake was detected in North Korea just hours after Pyongyang released photos of an alleged thermonuclear weapon.

According to South Korea’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, the quake came from Punggyeri, home to North Korea’s underground nuclear test site.

The United States Geological Survey (USGS), which monitors seismic activity, detected a 6.3 magnitude quake, described as an “explosion,” only 0 kilometers deep.

The China Earthquake Administration, which also detected a 6.3 magnitude, similarly labeled the incident a “suspected explosion” at the time of publication.

North Korea experts noted that the incident occurred at 12:30 p.m. North Korea time or “at the half-hour mark,” same as the country’s fourth and fifth nuclear tests.

Japan is currently measuring the quake magnitude at 6.1 while the U.S. and China remain at 6.3. The numbers, which continue to be adjusted as more information becomes available, may change.

Experts also said that the 6.3 magnitude tremor would be consistent with a thermonuclear explosion.

China later reported a second earthquake, magnitude 4.6, due to a suspected “cave in” following the explosion.

North Korea only hours prior to the quake released photos of what it said was a hydrogen bomb.

“The institute recently succeeded in making a more developed nuke, true to the strategic intention of the WPK for bringing about a signal turn in nuclear weaponization,” North Korean state media outlet KCNA reported.

China 'strongly condemns' N. Korean nuclear test: foreign ministry

Russia slams N.Korea nuclear test, urges calm

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Lol, all those other presidents listened to their advisers and kept kicking the can down the road with NK. We as American taxpayers have payed the extortion payments for decades. Finally we have a president that says no more and the truth about the NK being "decades away" from having nuclear arms is revealed to be the farce that it always was. China can lick my chicken nuggets. A war with the US will devastate their bottom line and they know it. The US will then be forced to go back to manufacturing their own goods. We should have played nice with Russia but we burned that bridge too. It's going to be an interesting year.

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US will launch 'massive military response' to NKorea threats: Mattis

AFP September 3, 2017

US Defense Secretary Jim Mattis (L) speaks to the press with General Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, about the situation in North Korea at the White House on September 3, 2017


Washington (AFP) - The United States will launch a "massive military response" to threats from North Korea, Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis said Sunday.

He spoke after President Donald Trump met with his national security advisers following a test of what Pyongyang said was a hydrogen bomb able to fit atop a missile.

"Any threat to the United States or its territories, including Guam, or our allies will be met with a massive military response, a response both effective and overwhelming," Mattis said.

He added: "Kim Jong-Un should take heed of the United Nations Security Council's unified voice. All members unanimously agreed on the threat North Korea poses and remain unanimous in their commitment to the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

"We are not looking to the total annihilation of a country, namely North Korea, but as I said, we have many options to do so."

His comments came after Trump warned the time for "appeasement" was over and threatened drastic economic sanctions.

The unexpectedly powerful test Sunday was said to exceed in magnitude the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, Japan -- the resultant shock caused momentary panic in parts of China -- and Trump slammed it as "very hostile and dangerous to the United States."

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Washington (AFP) - US President Donald Trump will convene his national security team Sunday and weigh possibly drastic economic sanctions against North Korea after Pyongyang test-fired what it claimed was a hydrogen bomb able to fit atop a missile.

"The national security team is monitoring this closely," said White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders. "The president and his national security team will have a meeting to discuss further later today."

In a tweet Sunday, Trump denounced the powerful test -- said to be the North's first blast to exceed in power the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, Japan -- as "very hostile and dangerous to the United States."

Other world leaders joined in the denunciation. China and Russia sharply condemned it, South Korean President Moon Jae-In called for the "strongest punishment," and Britain said China should step up economic pressure on the North.

In Washington, US Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said he was preparing a package of economic sanctions to do that -- measures "that would go as far as cutting off all trade and other business" with the North.

"I'm going to draft a sanctions package and send it to the president for his strong consideration so anybody (who) wants to do trade or business with them will be prevented from doing trade or business with us," Mnuchin said on "Fox News Sunday."

But he also said Trump had made it clear that "he will consider everything" and "look at all our options."

While the United States has virtually no trade with the North, the burden of sanctions such as Mnuchin described would fall heavily on China. About 90 percent of North Korean exports go to China.

Early last month the United Nations Security Council adopted a seventh set of sanctions aimed at depriving the North of a billion dollars in income from exports. China approved the measures.

Trump has repeatedly insisted that Beijing lean on the neighboring Pyongyang regime to stop its nuclear and missile development.

But on Sunday he also aimed criticism at the government in Seoul, tweeting that the time for talks was over and that "appeasement" would not work.

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I'm not the only one here who is old enough to remember the Cuban missile crisis. This is starting to sound a whole lot like that did, except I think Trump, for all of his faults, is a lot more competent in handling it than Kennedy was.

(DISCLOSURE: I've never been a big JFK fan.)

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Well, I'm old enough to remember Pres. Eisenhower on black and white tv. And still remember how serious everyone took the Cuban missile crisis. Everyone was prepping for "the end".

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Yep. Mom and Dad started stocking food in the storm shelter, and did their best to to put up radiation shielding. It was real.

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It is interesting how various media are all covering the concept of an EMP blast, or a massive power outage across the country.

It is usually connected to NK or hackers.

This may sound loony tunes but what if that is signaling?

I'm glad it is getting the press, people ought to know about the risks. But I ponder why after radio silence for so long, now it is coming in droves.

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World War 3? The United States And North Korea Stand On The Brink Of A Nuclear War

Most Americans have absolutely no idea what a military conflict with North Korea would mean

Michael Snyder | Economic Collapse - September 4, 2017

After North Korea successfully tested a hydrogen bomb on Sunday, U.S. Secretary of Defense James Mattis warned that the United States is more than capable of “the total annihilation of a country”.

Unfortunately, the North Koreans may have already gotten to the point where they are capable of the same thing. Just a handful of North Korean nukes could kill millions of people and render the largest cities in South Korea or Japan completely uninhabitable, and so a nuclear war with the North Koreans should be avoided at all costs. Sadly, global events seem to be relentlessly pulling us in that direction.

According to the U.S. Geological Survey, a magnitude-6.3 earthquake was registered in North Korea at the same time that the North Koreans claim that they conducted a “perfect” test of a hydrogen bomb. This test was reportedly 10 times more powerful than North Korea’s last nuclear test, and the North Koreans are also claiming that this bomb was small enough to be fitted on an inter-continental ballistic missile.

North Korea should have never been allowed to get to this point. But the Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations just kept kicking the can down the road year after year, and now we are facing a crisis with no good solution. Because it is absolutely unthinkable for us to allow North Korea to have an entire fleet of nuclear missiles capable of hitting targets in the United States, but it is also absolutely unthinkable to start a war in which potentially tens of millions of people could die.

North Korea is honeycombed with very deep underground tunnels. Even if we knew exactly how many nukes North Korea has, and even if we knew where they all were, there is still no possible way that we could get them all with a first strike.

But even if we could, North Korea is entirely capable of killing millions in South Korea and Japan with chemical, biological and conventional weapons. Before he left the White House, Steven Bannon had the following to say about the situation that we are facing on the Korean peninsula…

“Until somebody solves the part of the equation that shows me that ten million people in Seoul don’t die in the first 30 minutes from conventional weapons, I don’t know what you’re talking about, there’s no military solution here, they got us,” Bannon told the American Prospect.

In this case, Bannon is exactly correct, and any members of Congress that would suggest differently are simply lying to you.

At this moment, there is no military solution to the North Korean crisis, but our top military leaders continue to talk as if there is…

US Defense Secretary James Mattis vowed “a massive military response” to any threat from North Korea against the United States or its allies in a statement outside the White House after a meeting with President Donald Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and top national security advisers Sunday.

Mattis said Trump wanted to be briefed on each of the “many military options” for dealing with the North Korean nuclear threat.

In fact, Mattis went so far as to suggest that the “total annihilation” of North Korea is a potential option…

“We are not looking to the total annihilation of a country, namely North Korea, but as I said, we have many options to do so.”

As he was leaving church on Sunday, President Trump also suggested that a pre-emptive strike on North Korea is very much on the table…

As he left church, Trump was asked, “Will you attack North Korea?”

Trump answered, “We’ll see.”

In addition, on Twitter Trump warned that he was considering “stopping all trade with any country doing business with North Korea”…

The United States is considering, in addition to other options, stopping all trade with any country doing business with North Korea.

Of course China is North Korea’s biggest trade partner, and if we immediately tried to cut off all trade with China it would throw the global economy into a nightmare scenario.

But a trade war with China is not our only concern. Last month, The Global Times (a Chinese state newspaper) threatened the United States with a shooting war if it attempted to bring about regime change in North Korea…

‘If the US and South Korea carry out strikes and try to overthrow the North Korean regime and change the political pattern of the Korean Peninsula, China will prevent them from doing so.’

This is the tensest that things have been on the Korean peninsula since the Korean War ended in 1953.

One false move and literally tens of millions of people could die.

Most Americans have absolutely no idea what a military conflict with North Korea would mean. We are talking about death and destruction on a scale that would be absolutely unprecedented. The following is an excerpt from one of my previous articles…

Could you imagine what would happen if a North Korean nuke hit Tokyo or Seoul?

Even one nuke could kill millions in those densely populated cities, and financial markets all over the world would almost instantly implode.

And North Korea also has some of the largest chemical and biological weapons stockpiles on the entire planet. Within moments of an attack, thousands of North Korean artillery pieces and rockets would start raining fire on Seoul, and even just a few chemical or biological warheads would cause immense devastation in that city of about 10 million people.

In addition, North Korean forces are poised to invade South Korea at literally any moment, and the only way that South Korea could survive such an invasion would be direct intervention by U.S. forces.

On top of everything else, what if the North Koreans were able to successfully launch a nuke or two toward our major cities? Or what if they already have the technology to set off an EMP blast high in the atmosphere above the continental United States? Or what if their agents that are already embedded here start releasing biological agents in our major cities?

These are nightmare scenarios that most Americans never even consider, but they would be very real possibilities in the event that we go to war with North Korea.

Sometimes a military option is the best option, but this is not one of those cases.

There is no way that a military strike on North Korea would end well, and our top brass already knows this.

So let us hope that cooler heads prevail, because at this moment we are literally standing on the brink of World War 3.

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South Korea simulates attack on North's nuke site after test


By FOSTER KLUG and YOUKYUNG LEE

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — Following U.S. warnings to North Korea of a "massive military response," South Korea fired missiles into the sea to simulate an attack on the North's main nuclear test site on Monday, a day after North Korea detonated its largest-ever nuclear test explosion.

South Korea's Defense Ministry also said Monday that North Korea appeared to be planning a future missile launch, possibly of an ICBM, to show off its claimed ability to target the United States with nuclear weapons, though it was unclear when this might happen.

The heated words from the United States and the military maneuvers in South Korea are becoming familiar responses to North Korea's rapid, as-yet unchecked pursuit of a viable arsenal of nuclear-tipped missiles that can strike the United States. The most recent, and perhaps most dramatic, advance came Sunday in an underground test of what leader Kim Jong Un's government claimed was a hydrogen bomb, the North's sixth nuclear test since 2006.

The United Nations Security Council held its second emergency meeting about North Korea in a week on Monday, with U.S. Ambassador Nikki Haley saying the North's actions show that Kim is "begging for war," and the time has come for the Security Council to adopt the strongest diplomatic measures.

South Korea's military on Monday fired missiles into the sea to simulate an attack on the North Korea's main nuclear test site a day after Pyongyang detonated its largest ever nuclear test explosion. (Sept. 4)

"Enough is enough. War is never something the United States wants. We don't want it now. But our country's patience is not unlimited," Haley said.

In Seoul, Chang Kyung-soo, an official with South Korea's Defense Ministry, told lawmakers on Monday that it was seeing preparations in the North for an ICBM test but didn't provide details about how officials had reached that assessment. Chang also said the yield from the latest nuclear detonation appeared to be about 50 kilotons, which would mark a "significant increase" from North Korea's past nuclear tests.

In a series of tweets, U.S. President Donald Trump threatened to halt all trade with countries doing business with North Korea, a warning to China, and faulted South Korea for what he called "talk of appeasement."

In response, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang, told reporters in Beijing on Monday that China regarded as "unacceptable a situation in which on the one hand we work to resolve this issue peacefully but on the other hand our own interests are subject to sanctions and jeopardized. This is neither objective nor fair."

South Korea's military said its live-fire exercise was meant to "strongly warn" North Korea. The drill involved F-15 fighter jets and the country's land-based "Hyunmoo" ballistic missiles firing into the Sea of Japan.

The target was set considering the distance to North Korea's test site and the exercise was aimed at practicing precision strikes and cutting off reinforcements, Seoul's Joint Chiefs of Staff said.

Each new North Korean missile and nuclear test gives the country's scientists invaluable information that allows big jumps in capability. North Korea is thought to have a growing arsenal of nuclear bombs and has spent decades trying to perfect a multistage, long-range missile to eventually carry smaller versions of those bombs.

Both diplomacy and severe sanctions have failed to check the North's decades-long march to nuclear mastery.

In Washington, Trump, asked by a reporter if he would attack North Korea, said, "We'll see." No U.S. military action appeared imminent, and the immediate focus appeared to be on ratcheting up economic penalties, which have had little effect thus far.

In brief remarks after a White House meeting with Trump and other national security officials, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis told reporters that America does not seek the "total annihilation" of North Korea, but then added somberly, "We have many options to do so."

Mattis said the U.S. will answer any threat from the North with a "massive military response — a response both effective and overwhelming."

Mattis also said the international community is unified in demanding the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula and that Kim should know Washington's commitment to Japan and South Korea is unshakeable.

The precise strength of North Korea's underground nuclear explosion has yet to be determined. South Korea's weather agency said the artificial earthquake caused by the explosion was five times to six times stronger than tremors generated by the North's previous five tests.

Sunday's detonation builds on recent North Korean advances that include test launches in July of two ICBMs. The North says its missile development is part of a defensive effort to build a viable nuclear deterrent that can target U.S. cities.

North Korea has made a stunning jump in progress in its nuclear and missile programs since Kim rose to power following his father's death in late 2011. The North followed its two tests of Hwasong-14 ICBMs, which, when perfected, could target large parts of the United States, by threatening to launch a salvo of Hwasong-12 intermediate range missiles toward the U.S. Pacific island territory of Guam in August.

It flew a Hwasong-12 over northern Japan last week, the first such overflight by a missile potentially capable of carrying nuclear weapons, in a launch Kim described as a "meaningful prelude" to containing Guam, the home of major U.S. military facilities, and vowed to launch more ballistic missile tests targeting the Pacific.

Ahead of the North's test, photos released by the North Korean government showed Kim talking with his lieutenants as he observed a silver, peanut-shaped device that was purportedly a thermonuclear weapon destined for an ICBM. The images were taken without outside journalists present and could not be independently verified. What appeared to be the nose cone of a missile could also be seen in one photo, and another showed a diagram on the wall behind Kim of a bomb mounted inside a cone.

The Arms Control Association in the United States said the explosion appeared to produce a yield in excess of 100 kilotons of TNT equivalent, which it said strongly suggests North Korea tested a high-yield but compact nuclear weapon that could be launched on a missile of intermediate or intercontinental range.

Beyond the science of the blast, North Korea's accelerating push to field a nuclear weapon that can target all of the United States is creating political complications for the U.S. as it seeks to balance resolve with reassurance to allies that Washington will uphold its decades-long commitment to deter nuclear attack on South Korea and Japan.

That is why some questioned Trump's jab at South Korea. He tweeted that Seoul is finding that its "talk of appeasement" will not work. The North Koreans, he added, "only understand one thing," implying military force might be required. The U.S. has about 28,000 troops stationed in South Korea and is obliged by treaty to defend it in the event of war.

Trump also suggested putting more pressure on China, North Korea's patron for many decades and a vital U.S. trading partner, in hopes of persuading Beijing to exert more effective leverage on its neighbor. Trump tweeted that the U.S. is considering "stopping all trade with any country doing business with North Korea." Such a halt would be radical. The U.S. imports about $40 billion in goods a month from China, North Korea's main commercial partner.

Experts have questioned whether North Korea has gone too far down the nuclear road to continue pushing for a denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, an Obama administration policy goal still embraced by Trump's White House.

"Denuclearization is not a viable U.S. policy goal," said Richard Fontaine, president of the Center for a New American Security, but neither should the U.S. accept North Korea as a nuclear power, he said. "We should keep denuclearization as a long-term aspiration, but recognize privately that it's unachievable anytime soon."

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I liked what Mad Dog said. "Our goal is not to annihilate you - but if we have to, we will."

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Haley: ‘North Korea Will Be Destroyed’ if the U.S. Has to Defend Itself

BY: Charles Russell Follow @charleswrussell
September 17, 2017 10:38 am

U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley said Sunday "North Korea will be destroyed" if the U.S. is forced to defend itself against the belligerent country.

CNN host Dana Bash asked Haley on "State Of The Union" if President Donald Trump's "fire and fury" remarks last month against dictator Kim Jong Un was an empty threat.

Haley said the threats were not empty and if the diplomatic process with North Korea doesn't work she "would be perfectly happy to send this over to [Defense] Secretary Mattis" since he has "plenty of military options."

"It was not an empty threat. What we were doing is being responsible. Where North Korea is being irresponsible and reckless, we were being responsible by trying to use every diplomatic possibility that we could possibly do. We've pretty much exhausted all the things that we could do at the security council at this point," Haley said.

Bash followed up the original question by asking if Trump's "fire and fury" remark meant a military option.

"By saying General Mattis will take care of it, you're are talking about the Pentagon and you're talking about a military option. Is that what ‘fire and fury' meant?" Bash asked.

Haley answered firmly saying if the United States has to defend itself "North Korea will be destroyed."

"You have to ask the president what fire and fury meant. But I think we all know that basically if North Korea keeps on with this reckless behavior, if the United States has to defend itself or defend its allies in any way, North Korea will be destroyed," Haley said. "We all know that, and none of us want that."

"None of us want war, but we also have to look at the fact that you're are dealing with someone who is being reckless and irresponsible and is continuing to give threats not only to the United States but to all of their allies, so something is going to have to be done," she added.

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North Korea Threatens H-Bomb Test in the Pacific


9/23 - N. Korean radio & TV broadcast gov statement declaring the US "should be totally destroyed and wiped off the surface of our planet." Monitoring...

9/23 - Overnight: AlertsUSA monitoring series of low mag seismic events near DPRK nuclear test site. Thus far, gov agencies concur all are likely natural events.

9/21 - DPRK Foreign Minister Ri Yong-ho says country may conduct hydrogen bomb test in the Pacific in response to POTUS threat of destruction. See email for more info.

9/21 - Full text of Kim Jung Un's earlier statement has been sent via email.

9/20 - Be advised that FEMA & the FCC will conduct a nationwide test of the Emergency Alert System (EAS) on Wed, Sept 27, 2017 at 2:20 pm EDT. http://bit.ly/2fbocO1
What You Need To Know

On 10 occasions this week AlertsUSA subscribers were notified via SMS messages to their mobile devices regarding safety and security matters. Most pressing for this report, on Thursday evening, AlertsUSA subscribers were some of the first in the nation to learn of a threat made by N. Korea's Foreign Minister Ri Yong-ho stating that the country may conduct a hydrogen bomb test in the Pacific Ocean in response to threats made by President Trump regarding N. Korea's continuous stream of provocative and highly dangerous actions.In the last three weeks alone these actions include numerous threats as a result of UN sanctions, an underground nuclear test on September 3rd, as well as two long-range missiles fired over Japan which ultimately impacted in the Pacific Ocean.

Earlier Thursday, North Korean leader Kim Jung-Un issued a rare statement in his own name, lashing out at President Trump just hours after broad new sanctions were put in place in a bid to derail the North's nuclear and missile programs. In response to President Trump's speech before the U.N. General Assembly, Kim Jung-un stated that the country would respond with the "highest level of hard-line countermeasures in history."

Readers should not dismiss the seriousness of the increasingly tense situation on the Korean Peninsula. The dangers posed by N. Korea's missile launches alone (all unannounced) has resulted in numerous airlines, including Lufthansa, Scandinavian Airlines and Swiss Air, to change their flight routes to avoid crossing directly over the Sea of Japan amid growing concerns of an accidental strike. This concern is very real. After North Korea's second long-range missile test in July, it was revealed that Air France flight 293 from Tokyo to Paris had flown across the rocket's flight path just 10 minutes beforehand.

If the same reckless behavior is shown with an atmospheric detonation over the Pacific without appropriate international notification and planning, the effects could be disastrous, potentially knocking out the sensitive, unshielded electronics of aircraft over a broad area, not to mention that of maritime traffic and potentially even satellites in low-Earth orbit.

According to the Comprehensive (Nuclear) Test-Ban Treaty Organization (CTBTO), of more than 2,000 test detonations that have been conducted since the advent of nuclear weapons, more than 100 were carried out in remote locations in the Pacific by the U.S., the United Kingdom and France. In the Marshall Islands and French Polynesia, the local population suffered from higher rates of cancer, birth defects and thyroid disorders, and a host of environmental impacts remain to this day.

According to a report by the Lowy Institute, N. Korean nuclear tests have demonstrated a track record of steadily increasing yields. With the September underground detonation of a thermonuclear weapon, the continued testing of such weapons on land is highly impractical given their small size, lack of large, unpopulated areas and geographic proximity to other nations. So future testing in international waters is the only practical option remaining if they intend to further refine the capabilities of these weapons.

Once again AlertsUSA warns that when the cloudy historical and political narrative is removed, the world is now faced with the following realities:

N. Korea now possesses miniaturized nuclear weapons.
N. Korea now possesses the means to deliver those nuclear weapons.
Now that N. Korea is in possession of nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them, it is highly likely their close ally, Iran, will also soon possess them.
The N. Korean regime fully realizes that their survival is based on the continued development of this nuclear deterrent..... meaning... they are highly unlikely to willingly end their program.

Given these realities, restraint and the quest for diplomatic solutions virtually assures continued proliferation into the hands of rogue nations and those private individuals and groups with deep enough pockets.

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Still more posturing today. It's the news outlets that are the winners in the war of words. They are all to happy to sensationalize the situation.

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U.S. flies mission north of DMZ, sends message to North Korea

Trump: North Korean leaders 'won't be around much longer' if they strike US

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As North Korea threatens electromagnetic pulse attack, questions over lapses in US grid security rise

By Hollie McKay, Fox News

For more than 15 years, security and intelligence officials — including former CIA Director James Woolsey — have been raising the alarm bells about the vulnerability of the U.S. power grid to an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack. Only now as tensions with North Korea quickly escalate — with the rogue nation refusing to back down from its nuclear testing and threats of such an onslaught — is the matter really generating attention.

But according to U.S. defense and security officials, while there are players purporting to protect the nation’s critical infrastructure given millions of American lives on the line, the reality is that no one really knows what will happen and what can be done.

“We recognize that an EMP event would have extremely dire consequences for the entire country, but where the challenge comes is in attempting to quantify those impacts,” one high-ranking Department of Homeland Security official, who requested anonymity, told Fox News. “This is not something we have had a lot of real world experience with.”

Earlier this month, state news agencies in the Kim Jong Un-dictated country explicitly cautioned that it could hit the U.S. with an EMP offensive. A hydrogen bomb detonated at a high altitude would create an EMP that potentially could abolish prominent parts of the electrical grid. The higher the bomb’s detonation, the wider the scope of destruction. And given that high-altitude nuclear tests were prohibited as per a 1963 treaty, from the U.S. side, there is little scientific data to understand the devastation of a detonation on modern infrastructure.

But the potential fallout from such an event is monstrous. In 2001, Congress enacted the since-disbanded Commission to Assess the Threat to the U.S. with regards to an EMP event, with commissioners testifying that up to 90 percent of Americans could die within a year of such an attack. All the functions communities rely upon — hospitals, water, waste, transport, telecommunications, air control, medical care — could potentially be decimated for not days or weeks, but months or years.

“Our ability to know what would happen in the aftermath is highly uncertain. That being said, we are doing several things to deepen our understanding. There is a lot of information sharing,” noted the official. “We are looking at mitigation strategies and developing planning tools. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is involved too as there have been exercises and workshops related to catastrophic planning and EMP events. But DHS does not have authority to compel power operators to do anything, we do not have regulatory authority over grid operators.”

The U.S. electrical grid, which is deemed one of the most vital pieces of infrastructure in the country and serves more than 300 million, does not have one singular oversight body responsible for its safeguarding — hence authorities have cautioned that the magnitude of threat has fallen between the cracks.

“The military doesn’t think it is their job to make the grid resilient, even though 99 percent of their missions in continental United States rely on the civilian grid. The utilities don’t think it is their job because it is a national security problem. Besides, they don’t want to come up with the money, face more regulatory burdens or fool with making over parts of the grid with uncertain technical consequences,” lamented Frank Gaffney, Center for Security Policy President and Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy under President Reagan, who has long warned of EMP’s efficiency to bring down America. “And because of the sweetheart regulatory arrangement they have at the federal level, they have been able to avoid it.”

Rather, individual utilities are ultimately responsible for grid security but there is no standard mandate in place. The private nonprofit North American Energy Reliability Company (NERC) makes voluntary “best practices” recommendations to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) while the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Department of Energy (DOE) counterpart on security and preparedness efforts.

According to the DHS, financing grid security — given that it doesn’t fall under the responsibility of one particular office — could have been done through slight rate increases, but efforts are typically bound by red tape.

“If utilities want to increase their customer rates by one cent a kilowatt hour to help invest in a new effort for counter-terrorism or EMP they have to go to a public utility commission and convince them that these rate increases are beneficial and meet certain cost/benefit conditions,” said the official. “Frankly, public utility commissions are there to protect consumers and they tend to be skeptical and tend to really push utilities to think very hard about the times they come in and push for rate increases to help support these kinds of efforts. Unlike some other industries where they can immediately pass off costs to consumers, this is not the case with power companies. They are slower to move due to the regulatory environment they have to deal with.”

Risk analyst and policy expert Dennis Santiago observed that any effort to harden the U.S. power grid — including the oldest and most interconnected portions of it in the eastern United States, which are especially exposed to disruption due to their age and design — have fallen short at the public utilities level because of “more pressing threats like physical attack security and cybersecurity.”

“In the end, this process has left the U.S. with antiquated and vulnerable infrastructure,” he said. “There is no unified or specified commander charged with specifically marshalling America’s resources from the government and private sector into an active defense of the power grid. There are civil services and regulatory bodies mostly focused on energy as utilities but nothing looks like an energy version of a military defense command.”

However, DHS authorities, in conjunction with the Department of Energy, claim that even before North Korea’s provocations they started ramping up efforts — around a year ago — to make grid vulnerability higher on the priority list. The issue was always secondary to threats considered to be more acute by the intelligence community such as counter-terrorism post 9/11 and later cybersecurity and “more destructive type natural hazards.”

“If something happens in two weeks, we wouldn’t be able to close all the gaps of vulnerability,” pointed out the official. “But having looked at this issue for a number of years, we are taking appropriate action given our set of responsibilities and authorities.”

A spokesperson for the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) additionally told Fox News that they are “constantly working with federal partners to identify threats and vulnerabilities that could impact the power grid” and, in coordination with the federal partners, are working to “mitigate threats and where appropriate work with the private sector.”

But beyond the North Korea threat, experts also bemoan that Iran, Russia and China too have assimilated EMP attack into their military creeds, posing a significant peril to the United States.

“The very existence of the nation is at stake,” Gaffney added. “We are facing explicit threats to use EMP against us from the North Koreans — and there is a lot of capability to execute such an attack in the hands of other enemies.”

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Some hollyweird pedo that's been at it for decades is more important that 58 people killed in a false flag and a nuclear NK, which we pay to be non-nuclear, apparently.

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Experts Warn Congress: North Korean EMP Would Kill ‘90% of Americans’ – Consider Nuke First Strike

The U.S. is now facing a “doomsday scenario.”

Daily Wire - October 15, 2017

Two EMP experts warned Congress on Thursday that North Korea is capable of executing an EMP attack over the United States which would send the U.S. back to the stone age and would lead to the deaths of 90 percent of all Americans within one year.

Chairman Dr. William R. Graham and Chief of Staff Dr. Peter Vincent Pry of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack told the Committee on Homeland Security that the U.S. is now facing a “doomsday scenario” as U.S. intelligence under the Obama administration grossly underestimated the capabilities of North Korea.

Former NASA rocket scientist James Oberg visited North Korea’s Sohae space launch base, witnessed elaborate measures undertaken to conceal space launch payloads, and concludes in a 2017 article that the EMP threat from North Korea’s satellites should be taken seriously:

…there have been fears expressed that North Korea might use a satellite to carry a small nuclear warhead into orbit and then detonate it over the United States for an EMP strike. These concerns seem extreme and require an astronomical scale of irrationality on the part of the regime. The most frightening aspect, I’ve come to realize, is that exactly such a scale of insanity is now evident in the rest of their space program.

Graham and Pry referenced writing from Ambassador Henry Cooper – former Director of the U.S. Strategic Defense Initiative, and a preeminent expert on missile defenses and space weapons – who has repeatedly warned U.S. officials about the threat presented by North Korea:

U.S. ballistic missile defense (BMD) interceptors are designed to intercept a few North Korean ICBMs that approach the United States over the North Polar region. But current U.S. BMD systems are not arranged to defend against even a single ICBM that approaches the United States from over the South Polar region, which is the direction toward which North Korea launches its satellites… So, North Korea doesn’t need an ICBM to create this existential threat. It could use its demonstrated satellite launcher to carry a nuclear weapon over the South Polar region and detonate it…over the United States to create a high-altitude electromagnetic pulse (HEMP)…The result could be to shut down the U.S. electric power grid for an indefinite period, leading to the death within a year of up to 90 percent of all Americans—as the EMP Commission testified over eight years ago.

Graham and Pry stated the U.S. now faces a serious and potentially imminent threat of a nuclear EMP attack from North Korea and that immediate action is needed:

Just six months ago, most experts thought North Korea’s nuclear arsenal was primitive, some academics claiming it had as few as 6 A-Bombs. Now the intelligence community reportedly estimates North Korea has 60 nuclear weapons.
Just six months ago, most experts thought North Korea’s ICBMs were fake, or if real could not strike the U.S. mainland. Now the intelligence community reportedly estimates North Korea’s ICBMs can strike Denver and Chicago, and perhaps the entire United States.
Just six months ago, most experts thought North Korea was many years away from an H-bomb. Now it appears North Korea has H-Bombs comparable to sophisticated U.S. two-stage thermonuclear weapons.
Just six months ago, most experts claimed North Korean ICBMs could not miniaturize an ABomb or design a reentry vehicle for missile delivery. Now the intelligence community reportedly assesses North Korea has miniaturized nuclear weapons, and has developed reentry vehicles for missile delivery, including by ICBMs that can strike the U.S.

Congress received a variety of solutions for the mid-term and long-term in how they should approach the situation – however Graham and Pry did not mince words about what President Donald Trump needs to do, immediately:

We recommend that the President declare that EMP or cyber-attacks that blackout or threaten to blackout the national electric grid constitute the use of weapons of mass destruction that justify preemptive and retaliatory responses by the United States using all possible means, including nuclear weapons.

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