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The US just returned a North Krean soldier who supposedly drifted over in a boat by accident when his motor failed while on patrol of their shoreline. He apparently wanted to go back and was not a defector.

Makes me wonder if someone is playing around with something that fires an EMP beam that kills engines. The Iranians got some of our guys that way a while back.

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If the latest NK missile launch was indeed stopped by such a weapon as a trial, that would account for all the chest beating going on by the globalists.

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quote:
Originally posted by Breacher:
Makes me wonder if someone is playing around with something that fires an EMP beam that kills engines. The Iranians got some of our guys that way a while back.

I've been wondering about EMP use to knock out the patrol boats off the coast of Iran 1-2 years back, to which I assume you allude. Do you have verification that the Iranians used an EMP device to knock out the patrol boats?

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Senators Told North Korea Nuclear Threat Is Urgent Rare White House session hears from Mattis, Tillerson, Coats, Dunford


BY: Bill Gertz Follow @BillGertz
April 26, 2017

The Senate took part in a rare White House briefing on Wednesday to hear what senior leaders described as "an urgent national security threat" posed by North Korea's nuclear and missile programs.

The hour-long secret session for all senators was held at the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, next to the White House, and included a brief appearance from President Trump who made short, introductory remarks.

Marine Corps Gen. Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, also took part in the session. His presence is an indication that military options for dealing with North Korea likely were discussed.

New steps by the administration will include the imposition of additional economic sanctions.

"The United States seeks stability and the peaceful denuclearization of the Korean peninsula. We remain open to negotiations towards that goal. However, we remain prepared to defend ourselves and our allies," Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, and Director of Intelligence Dan Coats said in a joint statement after the briefing.

Trump's approach seeks to pressure North Korea into dismantling nuclear, ballistic missile, and proliferation programs through imposing tighter economic sanctions and diplomatic measures, the three leaders said.

The senior officials noted that past efforts to halt the North Korean illicit arms programs had failed.

"With each provocation, North Korea jeopardizes stability in Northeast Asia and poses a growing threat to our allies and the U.S. homeland," they stated.

Sen. John Barrasso (R., Wyo.) told MSNBC the meeting was "very consequential" and included discussion of North Korea's shift from liquid to solid fuel missiles, and improving nuclear weapons and missile capabilities.

Barrasso said he favors increasing sanctions, including sanctions on China.

Sen. Chris Coons (D., Del.) called the session "very clear-eyed, sober and serious."

Coons told MSNBC the administration is working to avoid a conflict and "making it clear to China how serious we are about preventing North Korea from developing the capability to deliver a nuclear warhead by ICBM against the United States or one of our key allies, and that there are real efforts being made to avoid a misunderstanding or miscalculation because I do think this is a very dangerous circumstance and situation."

The administration recently completed a review of North Korea policy. New policies under consideration are imposing so-called secondary sanctions on North Korea that would be designed to cut off supplies of missile and nuclear goods from places such as China and Russia.

A U.N. panel of experts revealed in a report in February that debris obtained from a North Korean missile flight test last year included Chinese and Russian components.

President Trump pressed Chinese leader Xi Jinping during the recent summit meeting in Florida to pressure North Korea into giving up its nuclear arms and long-range missiles.

During the meeting, Xi told the president that China does not have the leverage over the Kim Jong Un regime in Pyongyang that the U.S. government believes it has, according to a White House official.

China has limited purchases of coal from North Korea but so far has not used its ability to restrict fuel oil exports to North Korea to pressure the regime.

North Korea relies on China for as much as 90 percent of its foreign trade.

White House officials and congressional aides sought to play down the significance of the briefing that comes amid heightened tensions. But all the officials said the threat from North Korea remains serious.

"I think it's really an expression of how seriously the president is taking this, and that he wants to engage with Congress on it," a senior administration official said of the session that has been scheduled for some time and is not a response to any particular event.

The aircraft carrier strike group led by the USS Carl Vinson is expected to arrive near the Korean peninsula in the next day, and a U.S. missile submarine also has been deployed.

The Air Force Strike Command also announced that a U.S. long-range nuclear missile was test fired from Vandenberg Air Force Base, California, on Wednesday. The command called the test of a Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missile "an important demonstration of our nation's nuclear deterrent capability."

The deployment comes as U.S. intelligence agencies are closely watching North Korea for signs of another underground nuclear test, or a long-range missile test.

North Korea earlier this week carried out a large-scale live-fire artillery drill with some 300 to 400 artillery pieces firing into the sea.

North Korea has amassed a large percentage of its forces, including hundreds of artillery pieces along the demilitarized zone separating North and South Korea. The artillery is within range of the South Korean capital of Seoul.

"We are engaging responsible members of the international community to increase pressure on the DPRK in order to convince the regime to de-escalate and return to the path of dialogue," Mattis, Tillerson and Coats said, using the acronym for North Korea.

"We will maintain our close coordination and cooperation with our allies, especially the Republic of Korea and Japan, as we work together to preserve stability and prosperity in the region."

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Kim prepares for war: North Korean leader takes the salute as his army fires rockets and torpedoes at mock enemy warships during country's 'largest ever' live-fire artillery drills

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North Korea tested another missile today,it broke up shortly after launch.

Onward and upward,
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Putin Warns: The Situation In North Korea Has “Seriously Deteriorated”

“We call on all states involved in the region’s affairs to refrain from military rhetoric and seek peaceful, constructive dialogue.”

Mac Slavo | SHTFplan.com -

China Warns: Situation With North Korea “At A Critical Point”

Sec of State Tillerson: inaction would bring catastrophic consequences

Clifford Cunningham | Infowars.com

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Trump warns North Korea's missiles will get better

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — President Donald Trump said after North Korea's latest failed rocket launch that communist leader Kim Jong-Un will eventually develop better missiles, and "we can't allow it to happen."

In a taped interview broadcast Sunday on CBS' "Face the Nation," the president would not discuss the possibility of military action, saying: "It is a chess game. I just don't want people to know what my thinking is."

Separately, Trump's national security adviser, Army Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, said North Korea's most recent missile test represents "open defiance of the international community." He said North Korea poses "a grave threat," not just to the U.S. and its Asian allies, but also to China.

Speaking on "Fox News Sunday," McMaster said it is important "for all of us to confront this regime, this regime that is pursuing the weaponization of a missile with a nuclear weapon."

"This is something that we know we cannot tolerate," McMaster said...

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WND ANALYSIS Decades of nuclear blackmail spawned 'major, major' North Korea crisis

http://www.wnd.com/2017/04/decades-of-nuclear-blackmail-spawned-major-major-north-korea-crisis/

The Real Reason for Attacking NK

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N.K. claims U.S. strategic bombers flew over Korea early this week

SEOUL, May 2 (Yonhap) -- North Korea claimed Tuesday that U.S. B-1B strategic bombers made flights over the Korean Peninsula early this week in an exercise on dropping nuclear bombs, saying that Washington is to blame for rising tensions.

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Chinese Troops Training For Refugee Influx on North Korean Border

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Strategy of 'Strategic Impatience' with North Korea

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Report: U.S. THAAD Missile Defense System “May Not Be Capable Of Actually Intercepting North Korean Nukes”

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Anyone else notice something odd?

For weeks the media was hysterical about the NK missle crisis...telling us nuclear war was imminent...

Now nothing...like it never happened.

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Looks like I spoke too soon.

Kim Jong-Un fires ANOTHER ballistic missile 400 miles towards Japan - after months threatening Trump with nuclear war and days after a new president took office in South Korea

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Something odd about that missile - it reached an altitude of 1250 miles. Most ICBM's never actually leave the atmosphere. The space station is only 250 miles up.

If it were put on a standard trajectory, it would probably have a range of 2500 to 3000 miles. That's not far enough to reach Hawaii or the mainland U.S., but it could reach Guam.

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Read a news report a couple of days ago that said the recent failed NK missile test may not have been a failure. Apparently it detonated at the perfect height to set of an emp. The author thought it may have been a "test run".

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North Korea fires medium-range missile in latest test

SEOUL, South Korea -- North Korea on Sunday fired a medium-range missile, U.S. and South Korean officials said, in the latest ballistics test for a country speeding up its development of nuclear weapons and missiles.

One U.S. official said it appeared to be a successful test of the land-based version of North Korea's sub-launched missile, CBS News national security correspondent David Martin reports.

The solid-fuel missile that was launched was the second successful test of a missile that the U.S. calls KN-15, Martin reports.

The rocket was fired from an area near the North Korean county of Pukchang, in South Phyongan Province, and flew eastward about 310 miles, South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said. It did not immediately provide more details.

White House officials traveling in Saudi Arabia with President Trump said the system, which was last tested in February, has a shorter range than the missiles launched in North Korea's most recent tests.

U.S. Pacific Command said it tracked the missile until it landed into the sea.

The United Nations Security Council plans to hold urgent consultations following the missile test. Council diplomats say the closed discussion was requested by the U.S., Japan and South Korea and will take place Tuesday. The diplomats spoke on condition of anonymity because the meeting has not been officially announced.

"The North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) assessed that the missile launch from North Korea did not pose a threat to North America," Commander Dave Benham, director of media operations for U.S. Pacific Command, said in a statement.

"U.S. Pacific Command stands behind our ironclad commitment to the security of our allies in the Republic of Korea and Japan," the statement said.

South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said in a statement that the country's military "is closely monitoring the North Korean military for any further provocation and maintaining readiness to respond."

In February, North Korea used a launcher truck to fire a midrange solid-fuel missile that it calls the Pukguksong (Polaris)-2, a land-based version of a submarine-launched missile the country revealed earlier. That missile traveled about 500 kilometers before crashing into the sea, according to South Korean and U.S. officials.

The February launch, the North's first missile test after Trump took office, alarmed neighbors because solid-fuel missiles can be fired more quickly than liquid-fuel missiles, which need to be fueled before launch and require a larger number of vehicles, including fuel trucks, that could be spotted by satellites.

The North's latest launch came a week after North Korea successfully tested a new midrange missile that Pyongyang said could carry a heavy nuclear warhead. Experts said that rocket flew higher and for a longer time than any other missile previously tested by North Korea, and that it could one day reach targets as far away as Hawaii and Alaska.

That missile launch showed that North Korea's technology seems to be getting more sophisticated, and it represented a significant advance for Kim Jung Un and his nuclear weapons program, Martin reported. U.S. officials said it appeared to have been a test of a reentry vehicle, a key technology North Korea must master before it can develop an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of striking the U.S. mainland with a nuclear weapon.

Under the watch of third-generation dictator Kim Jong Un, North Korea has been aggressively pursuing a decades-long goal of putting a nuclear warhead on an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of reaching the U.S. mainland.

North Korea conducted two nuclear tests last year alone, possibly improving its knowledge on making nuclear weapons small enough to fit on long-range missiles. The country has also conducted a slew of rocket launches as it continues to advance its arsenal of ballistic weapons, which also include midrange solid-fuel missiles that could be fired from land mobile launchers or submarines.

Such tests present a difficult challenge to new South Korean President Moon Jae-in, a liberal who took office on May 10 and has expressed a desire to reach out to North Korea. Pyongyang's aggressive push to boost its weapons program also makes it one of the most urgent foreign policy concerns for the Trump administration, though Washington has struggled to settle on a policy.

Sunday's missile launch came hours after Moon named his new foreign minister nominee and top advisers for security and foreign policy.

Moon held a National Security Council meeting at the presidential Blue House to discuss the launch, his office said.

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Breaking: North Korea Launches Multiple Ballistic Missiles

Projectiles believed to be surface-to-ship missiles

Mikael Thalen | Infowars.com - June 7, 2017

North Korea launched multiple ballistic missiles off its east coast Thursday, the South Korean military has said.

According to a statement from the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the projectiles are believed to be surface-to-ship missiles.

The South Korean military later added that the missiles flew more than 200 kilometers before falling into the East Sea.

“North Korea fired multiple unidentified projectiles, assumed to be surface-to-ship missiles, this morning from the vicinity of Wonsan, Gangwon Province,” the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) said, according to the Yonhap news agency.

The launches come shortly after the newly elected South Korean government confirmed it would suspend further deployment of the US Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) missile defense system intended to protect the country from North Korea.

Although two previously-installed launchers of the THAAD system will remain deployed, four others will not be added until an environmental impact assessment is completed.

Thursday’s launch, which is the fourth missile test since Moon became president, also comes less than one week after the United Nations Security Council passed new sanctions against the Kim regime.

This story is developing and will be updated as information becomes available.

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Missile launched by North Korea was intermediate range, not ICBM – Russian Defense Ministry

The Russian Defense Ministry has stated that North Korea launched an intermediate range missile on Tuesday morning

RT - July 4, 2017


The Russian Defense Ministry has stated that North Korea launched an intermediate range missile on Tuesday morning. The missile flew around 535 kilometers, reaching an altitude of 510 kilometers, and fell into the Sea of Japan, according to military data.

The missile test carried out by Pyongyang on Tuesday morning did not pose a threat to Russia, the defense ministry said in a statement.

“The launch was carried out in a direction away from Russia’s borders, and did not pose a threat to the Russian Federation,” the Russian military stated.

Russia’s missile warning system tracked the launch from North Korean territory, according to the military officials.

“The launch of a ballistic missile, carried out on July 4 at 3:46am Moscow time from a North Korean firing ground was recorded and tracked by Russia’s missile warning system,” an MoD statement said.

North Korea claimed that it had successfully launched its first intercontinental ballistic missile on Tuesday morning. Pyongyang said its Hwasong-14 ICBM flew some 933 kilometers in 39 minutes reaching an altitude of 2,802 kilometers, according to the country’s state television.

North Korea has repeatedly warned the US and its Asian allies, which conduct joint drills near the Korean Peninsula, that it would launch more missile and nuclear tests.

An intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) launched from North Korea would be able to reach and strike the United States, as such missiles can cover a distance of more than of 5,500 kilometers, while intermediate-range ballistic missiles (IRBM) have a much shorter range and pose no threat to the US.

The US military identified the projectile fired by North Korea as a single, land-based, intermediate range ballistic missile. American military data indicates that it flew some 930 kilometers in 37 minutes before falling into the Sea of Japan.

US President Donald Trump mocked North Korea’s latest missile test immediately after the launch, suggesting that the country’s leader, Kim Jong-un, doesn’t have “anything better to do with his life” than fire off missiles.

North Korea has just launched another missile. Does this guy have anything better to do with his life? Hard to believe that South Korea…..

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 4, 2017

Trump also urged China to exert more pressure on the North and “end this nonsense once and for all.” Meanwhile, Beijing called for calm and restraint from all sides, while condemning North Korea’s latest test, which violated UN Security Council resolutions.

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North Korea Says Newly Tested Mobile ICBM Can Carry Nuke

July 05, 2017

On Wednesday North Korea announced its newly tested mobile ICBM can carry a large nuclear warhead, triggering the west to hold emergency defense meetings

(SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA) North Korea said on Wednesday its newly developed intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) can carry a large nuclear warhead, triggering a call by Washington for global action to hold it accountable for pursuing nuclear weapons.

A spokeswoman for the U.S. Defense Department said it had concluded that North Korea test-launched an ICBM on Tuesday, which some experts now believe had the range to reach the U.S. state of Alaska as well as parts of the mainland United States.

U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said the test, on the eve of the U.S. Independence Day holiday, represented "a new escalation of the threat" to the United States and its allies, and vowed to take stronger measures.

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un said the test completed his country's strategic weapons capability that includes atomic and hydrogen bombs and ICBMs, the state KCNA news agency said.

Pyongyang would not negotiate with the United States to give up those weapons until Washington abandons its hostile policy against the North, KCNA quoted Kim as saying.

"He, with a broad smile on his face, told officials, scientists and technicians that the U.S. would be displeased ... as it was given a 'package of gifts' on its 'Independence Day'," KCNA said.

Kim ordered them to "frequently send big and small 'gift packages' to the Yankees," it added.

The test successfully verified the technical requirements of the newly developed ICBM in stage separation, the atmospheric re-entry of the warhead and the late-stage control of the warhead, KCNA said.

The launch was carried out by a mobile, not stationary, platform, meaning the weapon could potentially be deployed throughout North Korea, making it harder for the United States to track.

The North's state media said the missile, Hwasong-14, flew 933 km (580 miles), reaching an altitude of 2,802 km (1,741 miles) in its 39 minutes of flight.

Some analysts said the flight details suggested the new missile had a range of more than 8,000 km (4,970 miles), which would put significant parts of the U.S. mainland in range, a major advance in the North's program.

The launch was both earlier and "far more successful than expected", said U.S.-based missile expert John Schilling, a contributor to the Washington-based North Korea monitoring project, 38 North.

It would now probably only be a year or two before a North Korean ICBM achieved "minimal operational capability," he added.

In response, U.S. and South Korean troops fired missiles into the waters off South Korea in a show of force, the U.S. military said on Tuesday

"The deep strike precision capability enables the (South Korean)-U.S. alliance to engage the full array of time critical targets under all weather conditions," the U.S. Army said in a statement, adding that the Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS) and the Republic of Korea's Hyunmoo Missile II were utilized.

As President Trump left for Poland on his way to the G-20 meeting in Hamburg later this week, the U.S. president took a shot at China over their role in the North Korea crisis.

On his way to Warsaw this morning, President Trump tweeted: "Trade between China and North Korea grew almost 40% in the first quarter. So much for China working with us - but we had to give it a try!"

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Looks like NK just launched another ballistic missile. https://www.rt.com/news/397858-north-korea-missile-test-japan/
This could be interesting. I'm not totally convinced that China will be on our side should there be retaliation.

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Just saw this.

Experts Warn North Korea Capable of Striking U.S. Mainland After ICBM Test

Targets as far as New York City and Washington D.C. may now be within range

Mikael Thalen | Infowars.com - July 28, 2017

The test launch of an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) by North Korea Friday confirms Pyongyang’s ability to strike the U.S. mainland, experts warn.

The missile, which reached an altitude of 3,700km during its 47 minute flight, came down into the waters off of Japan’s west coast after being launched from Mupyong-ni, Chagang province, at 11:11 p.m. local time. Had the projectile been launched on a normal trajectory, analysts say the ICBM may have reached as far as Washington D.C.

“Based on the July 28 launch, preliminary impressions are that North Korea would be capable of easily ranging the contiguous United States…” The Diplomat’s Ankit Panda writes.

“The July 28 test would suggest that North Korea could potentially reach targets as far away as New York City and Washington, DC, depending on the size of its weapons payload.”

While the missile type has yet to be confirmed, the Hwasong-14, used in North Korea’s first ever ICBM test launch on July 4, remains the prime suspect. If confirmed, a comparison between Friday’s launch (yellow) and the July 4 test (red) suggests Pyongyang did not originally display the Hwasong-14’s full capabilities.

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Source: Scott LaFoy @wslafoy

Calculations from David Wright, physicist and co-director of the UCS Global Security Program, likewise found that major US cities are now within range of Pyongyang’s long-range missile. With an estimated reach of anywhere between 10,400km and 11,000km, a North Korean ICBM could easily reach Denver and Chicago.

“Los Angeles, Denver, and Chicago appear to be well within range of this missile, and that Boston and New York may be just within range. Washington, D.C. may be just out of range,” Wright said, noting that everything from the earth’s rotation to the mass of the payload could alter the figures.

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Source: David Wright, All Things Nuclear blog

While North Korea is not believed to have a nuclear device capable of surviving an ICBM’s reentry stage, a new assessment from the ­Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) has removed two full years off the timetable for when the communist regime is expected to obtain the technical prowess.

“The DIA has concluded that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un will be able to produce a ‘reliable, nuclear-capable ICBM’ program sometime in 2018, meaning that by next year the program will have advanced from prototype to assembly line, according to officials familiar with the document,” the Washington Post reports.

The U.S. and South Korea staged a joint ballistic missile exercise in response to North Korea’s ICBM launch, reported South Korea’s Yonhap News Agency.

WATCH: Pentagon releases video of US-SKorea live missile firing exercise that was conducted in response to NKorea ICBM launch. pic.twitter.com/T3HjIduyUB

— NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) July 28, 2017

In a unexpected move, South Korea, which originally rejected the additional deployment of Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) launchers from the United States, also signaled its desire Friday to place new components of the missile defense system on its border with the North. Though the missile defense system is incapable of stopping ICBM’s, South Korean President Moon Jae-in has signaled a willingness to strengthen the nation’s defenses.

A growing number of politicians in South Korea, skeptical of the United States’ willingness to defend Seoul in the event of an attack, are also calling on the Moon government to begin developing nuclear weapons – stirring global fears of nuclear proliferation in the Korean peninsula.

The Trump administration has focused primarily on using sanctions against Chinese entities in an effort to derail North Korea’s missile and nuclear weapons programs. Experts are increasingly calling on the White House to enter into diplomatic negotiations with Pyongyang as the country’s capabilities become increasingly clear.

According to the Pentagon, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Joseph Dunford and Admiral Harry Harris, the 24th Commander, United States Pacific Command, reached out to the Republic of Korea Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Lee Sun-jin to discuss potential military options.

“During the call Dunford and Harris expressed the ironclad commitment to the U.S.-Republic of Korea alliance,” a Pentagon statement said. “The three leaders also discussed military response options.”
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McMaster: U.S. Preparing For “Preventive War” With North Korea

The president said he has been clear he will not tolerate North Korea’s threats to attack the U.S. with nuclear weapons

Zero Hedge - August 6, 2017

The United States is preparing for all options to counter the growing threat from North Korea, including launching a “preventive war,” national security adviser H.R. McMaster said in an interview that aired Saturday on MSNBC. The comments come after North Korea carried out two tests of intercontinental ballistic missiles in the past month and after the president said he has been clear he will not tolerate North Korea’s threats to attack the U.S. with nuclear weapons.

The key excerpts (full transcript):

H.H.: Let me switch if I can to North Korea, which is really pressing. And– and remind our audience, at the Aspen Institute ten days ago, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Joe Dunford, said, “There’s always a military– option. It would be horrific.” Lindsey Graham on Today Show earlier this week said– “We need to destroy the regime and their deterrent.” Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said on Tuesday, I believe, to North Korea, “You are leaving us no choice but to protect ourselves.” And then the Chairman of the Chief of Staff of the Army said, “Just because every choice is a bad choice doesn’t mean you don’t have to choose.” Are we looking at a preemptive strike? Are you trying to prepare us, you being collectively, the administration and people like Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton for a first strike North Korea?
H.R.M. Well, we really, what you’re asking is– is are we preparing plans for a preventive war, right? A war that would prevent North Korea from threatening the United States with a nuclear weapon. And the president’s been very clear about it. He said, “He’s not gonna tolerate North Korea being able to threaten the United States” if they have nuclear weapons that can threaten the United States; It’s intolerable from the president’s perspective. So of course, we have to provide all options to do that. And that includes a military option.

Now, would we like to resolve it short of what would be a very costly war, in terms of– in terms of the suffering of mainly the South Korean people? The– the ability of– of that North– North Korean regime to hold the South hostage to conventional fire’s capabilities, artillery and so forth, Seoul being so close. We’re cognizant of all of that. And so what we have to do is– is everything we can to– to pressure this regime, to pressure Kim Jong-un and those around him such that they conclude, it is in their interest to denuclearize. And there are really I think three critical things, came out of the president’s very successful summit with– President Xi of China that were different– that were different from past efforts to work with China, which has always been, you know, the– the desire, right, to work with China– on the– on the North Korean problem.

How many casualties will there be:

HH: In 1994, when the first North Korean deal with signed, the people who executed it, Gallucci, Dan Poneman, Joe Wit wrote a book. And they quoted a general saying, “If there is a conflict,” called Going Critical, “there will be a million casualties.” A million casualties. Is that still a good estimate of what happens if– preemptive strike unfolds in North Korea, General?
HRM: You know, one thing about war. It’s impossible oftentimes to predict. It’s always impossible to predict the future course of events. Because war is a continuous interaction of opposites, a continuous interaction between your forces and those of the enemy. It involves not just the capability to use force, but also intentions and things that are just unknowable at the outset. And so I think it’s important to– to look at– range of estimates of what could happen, because it’s clear that at war, it’s unpredictable. And so you always have to ask the question, “What happens next? What are the risks? How do you mitigate those risks?” And– and obviously, you know, war is– is– is the most serious decision any leader has to make. And so what can we do to make sure we exhaust our possibilities and exhaust our other opportunities to accomplish this very clear objective of denuclearization of the peninsula short of war?

Should Americans be concerned:

HH: How concerned should the American people be that we are actually on the brink of a war with North Korea?
HRM: Well, I think it’s impossible to overstate the danger associated with this. Right, the, so I think it’s impossible to overstate the danger associated with a rogue, brutal regime, I mean, who murdered his own brother with nerve agent in an airport. “I mean, think about what he’s done in terms of his own brutal repression of not only members of his regime but his own family,” McMaster added.

On Tuesday, Sen. Lindsey Graham said that the president told him there would be a war with North Korea if the regime continues to try to hit America with an ICBM. Appearing on the Today Show, the South Carolina Republican Senator said that President Trump has indicated to him that the administration is prepared to strike North Korea to prevent an attack against the U.S. Pushed on by Matt Lauer on whether a viable military option exists in the region, Graham responded: “They’re wrong. There is a military option to destroy North Korea’s program and North Korea itself.”


The Hwasong-14 ICBM seen during its test in this undated photo released by
North Korea’s Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) in Pyongyang, July 5 2017.

As reported last Friday, North Korea claimed that its latest missiles can now strike anywhere in the United States, delivering nuclear warheads. Experts have said that the country’s missile program has greatly accelerated in recent months putting it far ahead of previous predictions about when it could launch reliable long-range missiles. Speaking to Newsweek in recent days, several experts said that an attack would be the deadliest the U.S. has ever received and potentially kill more than 100,000 people if it struck in large population centers like New York City or Los Angeles.

“I’m not going to confirm [whether the latest ICBM could reach anywhere in the U.S.] but whether it could reach San Francisco or Pittsburgh or Washington, I mean how much does that matter? It’s a grave threat,” McMaster said.

He added: “It’s impossible to overstate the danger associated with a rogue, brutal regime.”

McMaster cautioned that he was aware of the fact that any strike against North Korea could bring about a “very costly war” that would cause immense “suffering of mainly the South Korean people.”

Last month, CIA Director Mike Pompeo floated another option for dealing with the North Korea threat, saying that he was “hopeful we will find a way to separate that regime from this system.” North Korea responded by threatening swift and brutal consequences for any attempt to topple Kim.

“Should the U.S. dare to show even the slightest sign of an attempt to remove our supreme leadership, we will strike a merciless blow at the heart of the U.S. with our powerful nuclear hammer, honed and hardened over time,” a foreign ministry spokesman said.

Still, McMaster did not rule out such an attempt when asked whether it could be a legitimate tool. “I think it depends on the legal justifications for that. And this goes back to just war theory. And what is the nature of the risk? And does that risk justify acting in defense of your people and your vital interests?”

Last week, the local press reported that South Korea’s military is preparing a “surgical strike” scenario that could wipe out NOrth Korean command and missile and nuclear facilities following an order by S.Korea’s president Moon Jae-In.

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North Korea 'now making missile-ready nuclear weapons'

Crosses key threshold on path to becoming full-fledged power

(WASHINGTON POST) — North Korea has successfully produced a miniaturized nuclear warhead that can fit inside its missiles, crossing a key threshold on the path to becoming a full-fledged nuclear power, U.S. intelligence officials have concluded in a confidential assessment.

The new analysis completed last month by the Defense Intelligence Agency comes on the heels of another intelligence assessment that sharply raises the official estimate for the total number of bombs in the communist country’s atomic arsenal. The U.S. calculated last month that up to 60 nuclear weapons are now controlled by North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. Some independent experts believe the number of bombs is much smaller.

The findings are likely to deepen concerns about an evolving North Korean military threat that appears to be advancing far more rapidly than many experts had predicted. U.S. officials last month concluded that Pyongyang is also outpacing expectations in its effort to build an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of striking cities on the American mainland.


NKorea Responds: “Seriously Considering” Pre-Emptive Strike On Guam

NKorea responds to “fire and fury” comment from Trump

Zero Hedge - August 8, 2017

Challenge accepted.

If Trump thought that his bluff would be sufficient to finally shut up North Korea, and put an end to Kim’s provocative behavior, well… bluff called because North Korea’s state-run KCNA news agency reported moments ago that not only did N. Korea escalate the tensions up another notch, but explicitly warned that it could carry out a “pre-emptive operation once the US shows signs of provocation”, and that it is “seriously considering a strategy to strike Guam with mid-to-long range missiles.”

From Reuters:

N. KOREA WARNS OF OPERATION ON SIGNS OF U.S. PROVOCATION: KCNA
N. KOREA SAYS U.S. WAR HYSTERIA TO BRING MISERABLE END: KCNA
N. KOREA CAN STRIKE BEFORE ANY U.S. PRE-EMPTIVE ATTACK: KCNA
N.KOREA SAYS IT COULD CARRY OUT PRE-EMPTIVE OPERATION ONCE U.S. SHOWS SIGNS OF PROVOCATION -KCNA CITING MILITARY SPOKESMAN
N.KOREA SAYS IT IS SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING STRATEGY TO STRIKE GUAM WITH MID-TO-LONG RANGE MISSILES -KCNA
N.KOREA SAYS STRIKE ON GUAM WILL BE CARRIED OUT IN A CONSECUTIVE, SUCCESSIVE WAY ONCE LEADER KIM JONG UN GIVES ORDER

Needless to say, with both leaders determined to keep escalating until the adversary folds, this seemingly inevitable military conflict will not have a happy ending.

Red Alert! Trump Warns N Korea: U.S Ready To Respond With 'Fire & Fury' https://t.co/xp6c9ohKfC #infowars #usa #ThursdayThoughts

— Alex Jones (@RealAlexJones) August 8, 2017

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Here's Pastor Chuck Balwin:

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Pro-war Neocon Zionist Globalist Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) has said that President Trump told him in no uncertain terms that we ARE going to war with North Korea.

I sincerely pray that Graham is just spouting his typical pro-war neocon verbiage and that Trump didn't actually say that. Unfortunately, Donald Trump has shown--and continues to show--a strong propensity for war.

I have always been of the opinion that when the globalist elite are ready to take the world into nuclear war, it would begin with North Korea.


I sure wish evangelical pastors and Christians would repent of their devilish war fever and STOP beating the war drums. Without Christians constantly trumpeting their support for U.S. wars of aggression, GOP politicians like Lindsey Graham and John McCain would be impotent to foment war fever in Washington, D.C.

Jesus said, "Blessed are the peacemakers." Sadly, televangelists like John Hagee--and thousands of like minded pastors--have duped a majority of evangelical Christians into supporting all of these wars for Israel and have thereby turned Christians into the country's biggest warmongers.

The American people have been stupid to allow their politicians in Washington, D.C., (in BOTH parties) to not heed the warning of our Founding Fathers to stay clear from entangling alliances with foreign nations--ALL foreign nations, including Israel.

We will find out just how stupid we have been when the first nuclear warhead hits the first American city.

Lindsey Graham is a pathological liar. I PRAY that's all he's doing now. And if he is, it would be nice to hear President Trump say so.

A madman with nukes is not a good thing. And having Kim Jong Un have one too, well....

Onward and upward,
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We wouldn't have to deal with this mess today if we had finished the job in 53.

If we have to do it again we should not stop until NK has been totally annihilated.

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My father tried to reenlist in the Navy during the Korean War, but he couldn't pass the physical (he was wounded in a kamikaze attack off Okinawa).

My folks hated Truman after he fired MacArthur. Not enough to change their party registration, because aside from a few crackpots, there were no Republicans in Oklahoma back then. But they sure didn't vote for too many Democrats after that.

What would I have done? It sticks in my craw, but I suppose I would have done the same thing Truman did. You can't win a war of attrition with China, so it would most likely have turned into a nuke war with Russia. There just were no good choices.

Onward and upward,
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Like Nam, we shouldn't have been involved in the first place.

Had a uncle at Okinawa. His description of it was pretty bad.

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Mattis Speaks to Kim in Words He Will Understand

Secretary of Defense James Mattis sent another strongly worded reminder to North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un that the U.S. isn't going to back down in the current standoff over the Hermit Kingdom's nuclear missile program.

August 10, 2017

Secretary of Defense James Mattis had a stern message Wednesday for North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un—spoken, as Secretary of State Rex Tillerson put it—in words he could understand.

In a statement released by the Defense Department, the secretary responded to North Korean threats to Guam, a U.S. island territory in the Central Pacific:

The United States and our allies have the demonstrated capabilities and unquestionable commitment to defend ourselves from an attack. Kim Jong Un should take heed of the United Nations Security Council’s unified voice, and statements from governments the world over, who agree the DPRK poses a threat to global security and stability. The DPRK must choose to stop isolating itself and stand down its pursuit of nuclear weapons. The DPRK should cease any consideration of actions that would lead to the end of its regime and the destruction of its people … The DPRK regime’s actions will continue to be grossly overmatched by ours and would lose any arms race or conflict it initiates.

Earlier in the day, Tillerson defended President Donald Trump’s “fire and fury” comments directed at Kim, saying he was “sending a strong message to North Korea in language that Kim Jong-un can understand.” Kim may need another strong message, though, after tripling down on his threat against Guam.

The North Korean government said Thursday its attack plans would be finalized within the next week or two. It later stated the attack would likely be a “blanketing” volley of missiles at the island.

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Chinese paper says China should stay neutral if North Korea attacks first

BEIJING (Reuters) - If North Korea launches an attack that threatens the United States then China should stay neutral, but if the United States attacks first and tries to overthrow North Korea's government China will stop them, a Chinese state-run newspaper said on Friday.

President Donald Trump ratcheted up his rhetoric toward North Korea and its leader on Thursday, warning Pyongyang against attacking Guam or U.S. allies after it disclosed plans to fire missiles over Japan to land near the U.S. Pacific territory.

China, North Korea's most important ally and trading partner, has reiterated calls for calm during the current crisis. It has expressed frustration with both Pyongyang's repeated nuclear and missile tests and with behavior from South Korea and the United States that it sees as escalating tensions.

The widely read state-run Global Times, published by the ruling Communist Party's official People's Daily, wrote in an editorial that Beijing is not able to persuade either Washington or Pyongyang to back down.

"It needs to make clear its stance to all sides and make them understand that when their actions jeopardize China's interests, China will respond with a firm hand," said the paper, which does not represent government policy.

"China should also make clear that if North Korea launches missiles that threaten U.S. soil first and the U.S. retaliates, China will stay neutral," it added.

"If the U.S. and South Korea carry out strikes and try to overthrow the North Korean regime and change the political pattern of the Korean Peninsula, China will prevent them from doing so."

China has long worried that any conflict on the Korean peninsula, or a repeat of the 1950-53 Korean war, could unleash a wave of destabilizing refugees into its northeast, and could end up with a reunified county allied with the United States.

North Korea is a useful buffer state for China between it and U.S. forces based in South Korea, and also across the sea in Japan.

The Global Times said China will "firmly resist any side which wants to change the status quo of the areas where China's interests are concerned".

"The Korean Peninsula is where the strategic interests of all sides converge, and no side should try to be the absolute dominator of the region."

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North Korea Backs Down from Guam Attack Plan
Kim Jong Un says plan on hold unless “the Yankees persist in their extremely dangerous reckless actions”


Mikael Thalen | Infowars.com - August 15, 2017

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un announced he would not move forward with plans Tuesday to launch missiles near the Pacific Island of Guam.

Kim, who threatened last week to potentially send four Hwasong-12 intermediate-range ballistic missiles into waters off the U.S. territory’s coast, said plans to do so were on hold unless “the Yankees persist in their extremely dangerous reckless actions.”

“If the Yankees persist in their extremely dangerous reckless actions on the Korean Peninsula and in its vicinity, testing the self-restraint of the DPRK, the [North] will make an important decision as it already declared,” Kim said.

North Korean state media asserted that Kim’s decision followed a visit to a military command post where he reviewed an attack scenario prepared by senior officers.

Kim’s threats, partly in response to repeated B-1B flyovers originating from Guam’s Anderson Air Force Base, came just hours after President Donald Trump warned of “fire and fury” if the regime continued its provocative statements.

The announcement from Kim also called on the U.S. to “stop at once arrogant provocations against the DPRK and unilateral demands and not provoke it any longer.”

In response to Kim’s choice, U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson told reporters Tuesday that the United States remains open to talks with the regime.

“We continue to be interested in finding a way to get to dialogue but that’s up to him,” Tillerson said.

As noted by North Korea expert Ankit Panda, Kim’s announcement to step back from a potential attack, while not at all unexpected given its severity, may not be easily explained away by U.S. deterrence alone.

“First, by deciding not to proceed with the launch, Kim appears to have expressed an intent to deescalate,” Panda writes at The Diplomat. “Tuesday’s statement includes a paragraph that begins ‘In order to defuse the tensions and prevent the dangerous (sic) military conflict on the Korean peninsula’ and goes on to open the door to an exchange on equal terms with the United States — something akin to the ‘freeze for freeze’ proposal that has seen Chinese and Russian backing recently.”

Kim’s statement, Panda further argues, sets up “a highly provocative coercive bargaining scenario” that still leaves the threat to strike near Guam on the table.

While potentially coincidental, B1-B patrols in the Korean Peninsula also ceased following Kim’s threats against Guam.

“North Korea had specifically underlined B-1B flights as its chief concern, prompting it [to] prepare for preemptive ballistic missile strikes against Guam,” Panda adds. “The U.S. decision not to fly B-1Bs may have been happenstance, in this case; flights tend to occur with an interval greater than seven days.”

Although a back-and-forth of bellicose threats between Kim and Trump continue on the forefront, reports indicate that both countries have spent the past several months communicating through a diplomatic backchannel.

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