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Right after saying I don't like conspiracy theories, it occurred to me that no one has yet reported if Paddock was a Democrat or a Republican.

You don't suppose that's because he's a Democrat, and the news media doesn't want to report that, do you?

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Airforce there are breaking reports that he and his girlfriend were SJW's with connection to the SPLC. Whether true or not; this attack was political.

Could Stephen Paddock, the lone Vegas shooter, have been a patsy to kick off the left’s war with the right in the streets of America ?

Shooter in bloody Vegas gun massacre was longtime federal agent

Does This Video Show Second Shooter During Vegas Massacre?

BREAKING: Sheriff Says Las Vegas Shooter Could Have Been “Radicalized” Authorities admit potential motive for first time

Vegas Shooter’s Girlfriend Used Multiple ID’s, Multiple SS Numbers, and Married Two Men Simultaneously

Receipt Shows Paddock Had Another Guest in His Room Before Shooting Gunman ordered for two on September 27, four days before massacre

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I want to know what happened with the "CONFIRMED" police sighting of the older white male dressed in black with a black bag that had been seen shooting into the crowd that ran and hid in a RV that was latter surrounded by the police ?

It is all there on the tape.

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Ducttape, isn't it amazing how 'confirmed' reports get lost when it doesn't fit the mainstream agenda.

Just like the FBI who said the HRT were the one's who shot Paddock. And, the reports of antifa/leftist material in the motel room.

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Of course the gun control parade will come to every town.

Come and take it

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Notice how it's always the white, christian, conservative, gun owning Trump supporters who are the target.

And after they kill a few of them, the media always blames them for the problem.

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I suspect that's one reason why there are so many conspiracy theories about the Kennedy assassination. No one wants to admit it was another leftist who killed him.

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And then there is this ......

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/the-vegas-plot-thickens-the-connection-between-the-shooter-and-an-intelligence-agency_102017

The Vegas Plot Thickens: The Connection Between The Shooter And An Intelligence Agency

A few internet sleuths have taken matters into their own hands after the obvious disinformation campaign by the mainstream media surrounding the Las Vegas shooting. Mounting evidence of what looks like a false flag is worrying many. And once you read this, those fears will be shoved into overdrive.

On the surface, the tweet doesn’t say much. But how much can Mike Toke really say in a limited amount of characters? But what he does manage is enough to get anyone seeking the truth to follow all these leads and look into everything that the media and our government continues to hide from us. It’s what’s embedded in the tweet that counts.

Looking closely, the first thing you will notice is that the shooter, Stephen Paddock, had a pilot license and owned two planes. This is well-established fact. The tail number of one of those planes is N5343M, a Cirrus SR-20. You can see that this was owned by Paddock by going to the website Flightaware.com. But Paddock doesn’t own this plane anymore. It was grounded three years ago, and it’s now in the hands of none other than Volant LLC, which there is little information on.

However, Volant Associates is none other than a Department of Defense contractor. Meaning Paddock’s plane has been in the hands of the United States government for the past three years and grounded since – if Volant LLC is being used as a way to hide information. Considering what Volant Associates does, that wouldn’t be so far fetched. But the plane’s information is all easily verified here on Flightaware.com. It’s been in Roanoke, Virginia since April 25, 2014.

Volant’s describes it’s mission on their website as providing “the industry’s preeminent professionals to discriminating U.S. government and intelligence-and-defense-industry customers.”

The registration of this plane is also listed as “active” even though it hasn’t been flown in three years. Strange enough yet? Well, it gets even better. The FAA should have this same information. But they don’t. Their website shows that a different aircraft, a Cessna 152, maintains that tail number and it was last registered to a person in San Diego, California. The FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) is a government agency, and it appears that it has scrubbed this plane’s information. Now, why would they do that? Well, the plot still thickens.

There is little to be known about Volant LLC., in Roanoke, Virginia. A company big enough to have a plane should have a website, at least that would be the assumption. But a Google search netted very little information other than they provide “business services.” But Volant Associates is a completely different matter. That’s your defense contractor. And their website says they are located in Chantilly, VA, which wouldn’t be too far from Volant LLC. in Roanoke. And a quick Google search of that verifies that the two cities are only 219 miles apart. So is Volant LLC., a cover company for the defense contractor? Is this a coincidence?

For a list of all of the contracts between Volant LLC. and the government, click here. They have worked for the Obama Administration. Could Paddock’s plane have been used in other scandals, such as the Fast and Furious gun running scheme? Who knows, and at this point, we may never know.

What all this means is entirely speculation right now. But isn’t is strange that this information is being kept from the public, and those who seek the truth are stuck finding it on their own?

Delivered by The Daily Sheeple

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I tried to post a copy of this guys twitter page but it wouldn't load, so this is the best that I can do .

https://twitter.com/MikeTokes/status/915618593726898177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedailysheeple.com%2Fthe-vegas-plot-thickens-the -connection-between-the-shooter-and-an-intelligence-agency_102017

Mike Tokes‏Verified account @MikeTokes

BREAKING: Users on /pol/ have discovered flight records and a plane that belonged to the Las Vegas Shooter. It is connected to an intelligence contractor who's owner previously worked for the Obama administration.
9:44 AM - 4 Oct 2017

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Excellent find ducttape. I've been seeing reports all day that claim Paddock had years of connection to the mil/industrial complex.

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I've been hearing he had something to do with aerospace or NASA. But he made his money in real estate.

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Paddock may have fired at a jet fuel storage tank.

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Las Vegas Strip mass murderer Stephen Paddock used his Mandalay Bay hotel room to fire bullets at jet fuel tanks Sunday night, a knowledgeable source told the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

The bullets left two holes in one of two circular white tanks. One of the bullets penetrated the tank, but did not cause a fire or explosion near the Route 91 Harvest country music festival, another knowledgeable source said late Wednesday.

The tanks are roughly 1,100 feet from the concert site, where Paddock killed 58 people and wounded almost 500.

Within the past couple of days, a construction crew repaired and painted the holes, and FBI agents inspected the tanks and took measurements of the line of fire from Mandalay Bay, the sources said.

Paddock, a 64-year-old Mesquite resident, had broken two windows in his 32nd-floor suite — one in line with the concert site and the other with a direct view of the fuel tanks, one source said. The bases of private aircraft operators are close to the tanks.(Las Vegas Review-Journal)

FBI spokeswoman Sandra Breault declined to comment. “We can’t comment on an ongoing investigation,” she said late Wednesday.

Paddock’s shooting rampage was the deadliest in modern U.S. history. He killed himself as Las Vegas police closed in on his room.

Paddock was a retired accountant who had no criminal background and a passion for video poker. He lived in Mesquite with his girlfriend, Marilou Danley, and regularly came to the Las Vegas Strip to gamble.

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He had previously booked a room overlooking Lollapalooza, and another one overlooking a rap music festival. That doesn't mean he was thinking of shooting them up, but it sure is suspicious.

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This is a good one, it goes into the DEEP POCKETS angle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=985&v=zNqxUuyHFzc

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Las Vegas killer's plan to maximise casualties as note found in gunman's hotel room

Police found a note in the gunman's room with details of how to accurately aim from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel.

5 days after Vegas slaughter, only ISIS offers a narrative Police say no evidence of terrorism but can't provide alternative explanation

Was Vegas an FBI Sting Gone Bad?

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quote:
Originally posted by ConSigCor:
... Was Vegas an FBI Sting Gone Bad?

There's a lot more speculation than substance in that article, but it's as good a guess as any I've heard so far.

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Experts Confident There Were Multiple Shooters at Vegas Massacre

Special Forces veterans say gunshot acoustics point to multiple shooters

Kit Daniels | Infowars.com - October 9, 2017

There’s overwhelming evidence there were multiple shooters at the Las Vegas massacre – and Special Forces veterans who spoke to Infowars said the gunshot acoustics indicate Stephen Paddock didn’t act alone.

Numerous witnesses reported gunfire from multiple locations – and the acoustics indicate several, overlapping firearms according to veterans of Delta Force, Navy SEALs, Green Berets and other military outfits that Infowars spoke to who have first-hand experience in firefights with automatic weapons.

One of these sources, former Navy SEAL leader Craig Sawyer, is a top ballistics expert and a federal criminal investigator who also has his own sources, some of whom are linked to the investigation.

Here’s what he had to say about multiple shooters:

I will get this caveat out there that it’s very important to be accurate… echoes are very confusing, and hearing anything through a microphone is confusing, and one of my best friends is probably the foremost authority on… the acoustics of these big cases, and he’s got these huge computer [setups] to analyze everything.

Having said all that, and acknowledging that it is confusing after the fact to listen to a series of gunshots with echoes, I will say this: some things are beyond [doubt]… it’s apparent anyway. Even though you’re listening to the echoes and even though you’re listening to it after the fact through a microphone that does just change that acoustic signature, it’s still apparent there was more than one shooter.

…You hear [gunshots] very muffled, very far away and then all the sudden, shortly thereafter, you hear very loud, very distinct [gunshots]. That’s a far engagement and a close engagement.

…I feel confident that we’re hearing more than one shooter.

He also pointed out that so far, there’s hasn’t been much footage released of Stephen Paddock, which suggests the footage would derail the mainstream narrative of a lone shooter.

Remember, Las Vegas hotels and casinos are amongst the most surveilled places per square foot in the world, and yet officials haven’t bothered to release much video. Why wouldn’t surveillance footage be released if it collaborates the official story?

That in itself suggests a cover-up of the parties involved in the shooting – and that the real truth goes much deeper than the mainstream narrative.

If there were multiple shooters, this information needs to be released so the public can help find those responsible.

As we reported on Friday, there’s emerging evidence that the Las Vegas shooting was an ISIS attack and that Paddock had been radicalized, either for real or as part of a cover as he had the hallmarks of an intelligence agency cutout.

Remember, intelligence agencies were behind the rise of ISIS as the CIA and other agencies were funding so-called “moderate” rebels in the Syrian Civil War who were fighting alongside ISIS in an attempt to overthrow President Assad.

Many of these “moderate” rebels later pledged allegiance to ISIS.

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Julian Assange is saying that it started out as an FBI sting or something, but he offered no evidence.

I just heard (on Faux News, so take it for what it's worth) that Paddock was taking Valium "off and on" for years. It will be interesting to see the toxicity results when his autopsy comes back.

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I don't care how much smoke they try to blow up our ass, Valium had nothing to do with this.

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They just blew the timeline up, Now saying the security guard was shot before the shooting began, 200 rounds shot into the hallway before he opened up on concert, Blows what they told us out of the water. Remember they said the wounded guard met them and helped while they cleared rooms, That means the guard waited through the 15 min of shooting and the 72 min before the breach, that is 87 min. THIS STINKS

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There is as much misdirection as truth telling. The newest story is the security guard got shot 10 minutes before the shooting started and SWAT showed up 82 minutes later to find a dead man?

I'm afraid that we may be in the proverbial "calm before the storm." And, I don't think that Korea is the panic issue. Watch your six...

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And yet if you discuss this with any medical professional they ask "So you have issues with those in authority ?" .

I sure as hell do if those in authority are abusing their power that WE loaned them, and that they think that it is perfectly okay to lie to their employers but Heaven forbid that you should lie to them !
Until the scales are balanced, as they should be, then OUR "employees" will continue to think that they have more Rights then the rest of us.

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Now they don't know why he stopped shooting at the crowd. Nothing about this made any sense before, and it still doesn't.

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Police have dramatically changed their account of how the Las Vegas massacre began on Oct. 1, revealing Monday that the gunman shot a hotel security guard six minutes before opening fire on a country music concert — raising new questions about why police weren’t able to pinpoint the gunman’s location sooner.

Officials had previously said that gunman Stephen Paddock, 64, of Mesquite, Nev., shot Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos after Paddock had unleashed his deadly volley at the Route 91 Harvest Festival, an assault that began at 10:05 p.m. and left 58 people dead, with hundreds more injured.

They had credited Campos, who was shot in the leg, with stopping the 10-minute assault on the concert crowd by turning the gunman’s attention to the hotel hallway, where Campos was checking an alert for an open door in another guest’s room.

But Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said Monday that Paddock shot Campos before his mass shooting — at 9:59 p.m. — and they now didn’t know why Paddock stopped his attack on the crowd.

Paddock, who had placed security cameras outside his room, shot Campos through the door of his suite, which was outfitted with a camera to survey the hallway, as was a room service cart parked outside. Police said Paddock fired 200 rounds into the hallway.

Investigators previously said that the security guard was shot after Paddock had already spent 10 minutes firing into the crowd of concertgoers gathered below the hotel.

In a timeline released last week, investigators said Paddock had stopped firing at the concert across the street at 10:15 p.m., and the first police officers arrived on the floor at 10:17 p.m. and encountered the wounded Campos at 10:18 p.m., who directed the officers to Paddock’s suite.

Police were not in a hurry to enter Paddock’s suite because the security guard’s arrival had halted the shooting, police implied in previously describing the timeline. Paddock had killed himself by the time officers entered the room, they said.

In a news conference Wednesday, Lombardo said it was his “assumption” that Paddock stopped his shooting spree because the gunman, using his spy cameras, “observed the security guard, and he was in fear that he was about to be breached, so he was doing everything possible to figure out how to escape at that point.”

In another news conference last week, Clark County Undersheriff Kevin McMahill said Campos "had notified his dispatch, which was absolutely critical to us, knowing the location, as well as advising the responding officers as they arrived.”

But on Monday, the timeline changed.

“Mr. Campos was encountered by the suspect prior to his shooting to the outside world,” Lombardo said at a Monday news conference.

Police officers who started searching the hotel after the shooting began didn’t know a hotel security guard had been shot “until they met him in the hallway after exiting the elevator,” Lombardo said. He didn’t say whether Campos notified casino security after he was shot.

A police spokesperson did not immediately respond to several follow-up questions from the Los Angeles Times seeking clarification on the new timeline.


Charles "Sid" Heal, a retired Los Angeles County sheriff's commander and tactical expert, said the new timeline “changes the whole perspective of the shooting."

Heal said that if police had known immediately that a guard had been shot, they would have rushed the room while the gunman was still firing. He said it seemed to signal a breakdown in communication.

“It doesn't say much for hotel security,” Heal said.

After Campos was shot, a maintenance worker appeared on the 32nd floor and “Campos prevented him from receiving any injuries,” Lombardo said.


Representatives for the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino and the union representing the hotel’s security guards did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment.

Lombardo said investigators still had not uncovered a motive for Paddock’s attack and had found “zero” evidence of a second gunman. Investigators said Paddock was not seen with anyone before the attack.

Lombardo also revised the date on which police believe Paddock checked into Mandalay Bay. While initially they said he had checked in on Sept. 28, three days before the shooting, they now believe he checked in on Sept. 25.

They continue to believe he was operating without a partner.

Lombardo said investigators had compiled 200 “instances” of Paddock moving around Las Vegas before the attack, and he was always alone.

The sheriff also revealed that Paddock had started drilling a hole next to the door of his suite, but the drilling apparently was not completed, and officials weren’t sure what the hole was for.

Lombardo said investigators had found “some evidence of medications” used by Paddock but declined to give any more information.

Authorities have begun returning personal items to those who left them behind when fleeing the concert grounds. Clark County Deputy Fire Chief John Steinbeck said 99 people came Sunday to retrieve items from the Family Assistance Center at the Las Vegas Convention Center.

By late afternoon Monday, a slow trickle of people entered the heavily guarded doors of the center — some arriving on crutches and wearing bandages. A few emerged carrying bags or wheeling suitcases away into the parking lot.

Onward and upward,
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"Now they don't know why he stopped shooting at the crowd. Nothing about this made any sense before, and it still doesn't."

Maybe he stopped (if he ever really started) because somebody else .... Neutralized, Assassinated, Terminated, Liquidated, Taken out, Removed, Rubbed out, Wasted his duppa !

Then he .... Assumed room temperature, Went Belly up, Vacationing in that mysterious place after death, Bit the dust, Bit the big one, Breathed his last, Bought the farm, Dead as a door nail, Dead as a Dodo, Snuffed out, Went Tits up, Counting worms, Slipped on his pine overcoat, Kissed his arse goodbye, Sucking face with the Grip Reaper and finally .....He Cashed in his chips . Heheheheheheheeheee

Basically, he stopped because someone Wacked him to throw a wrench into this whole mess !

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With the amount of rounds he fired with that bump stock contraption, he might have stopped just because all of his rifles were too danged hot to hold anymore. I heard he had ten of those bump stocks, but I figure that would last less than ten minutes before they got too hot.

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Forensic acoustic proof of SECOND shooter in the Las Vegas massacre

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Back in the 70's, a forensic recording "proved" there was a second shooter in the JFK assassination. I didn't believe it then, and a few months later the "forensics acoustics" people retracted their claim.

Echoes are tricky anyway, and recordings are even trickier. For now at least, I'm skeptical.

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quote:
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Forensic acoustic proof of SECOND shooter in the Las Vegas massacre

Good analysis. Can't say that I've actually used much calculus in a couple decades but the math makes sense. The tables should be very easy to reproduce from readably available data.

I heard that 7.62 x 39 brass was rumored to be found on concert grounds but I've seen nothing to confirm it. Lies, lies and more lies??

AK FMJ ammo has muzzle velocity at 2430 f/p, so distance should be much less than the 250-275 feet determined from his analysis.

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Things I've read:

The shooter was a supporter of Bernie in the last election, then worked for Hillary.

His second plane was titled to an intel agency.

George Soroce(SP)bought into the hotel 60 days prior to the shooting.

The shooting lasted only 15 minutes. It took the cops another 50 minutes to reach the room. That is enough time for the shooter(s) to have fled down the stairs.

The fuel tanks were 2200' away. still within range of an AR-15, but no enough umph to penetrate or cause a fire.

100 pounds of ammonium nitrate and 50 pounds of tannerite were found in his car.

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I don't usually watch Hannity on Faux News, but that wounded security guard is supposed to be on the show tonight. It'll be interesting to hear what he has to say.

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Well that was a waste. I suffered through an hour of Hannity, and the security guard was a no-show.

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Clintonized ???

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I'm thinking lawyerized. Or just bumped, because the Harvey Weinstein scandal is bigger news than a mass shooting.

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There's a mystery developing around the security guard, Jesus Campos. He's either hiding out, or gone missing. If I were his lawyer, I'd be advising him to keep quiet too.

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http://www.shtfplan.com/conspiracy-fact-and-theory/las-vegas-massacre-survivor-abruptly-dies-just-days-after-posting-eyewitness-account-of-multiple-sh ooters-and-subsequent-cover-up_10132017

Las Vegas Massacre Survivor Abruptly Dies Just Days After Posting Eyewitness Account Of Multiple Shooters And Subsequent Cover-Up

Las Vegas shooting eyewitness turns up dead days after posting her highly detailed account of the massacre on Facebook claiming ‘100% more than one’ shooter

(INTELLIHUB) — A woman by the name of Kymberley Suchomel, 28, who attended the Oct. 1 Route 91 Harvest Music Festival, passed away Monday at her Apple Valley home just days after she had survived the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history unscathed, according to multiple mainstream media reports.

Suchomel, who posted her eyewitness account of the Las Vegas massacre in astonishingly vivid detail to her Facebook page on Oct. 4, subsequently passed away in her home on Oct. 9 from what reports are claiming are ‘natural causes.’

Shockingly, just days before her death, Suchomel posted key details about the shooting to Facebook that contradicted the official narrative which claims that Stephen Paddock was the lone gunman.

“From about 50 feet in front of us, and a little to the right, fire crackers were set off. Let me repeat that… FIRE CRACKERS WERE SET OFF. I verbally stated “some asshole just shot of fire crackers in close proximity to so many people”. I was literally pissed off. You could see Jason Aldean look to his left kind of startled by it, but he was also clearly irritated. I would say about 15 seconds later, the first volley of gunfire was released,” the eyewitness wrote.

She went on…

It was a shorter volley than any of the others, and the gunfire was not as close together either. EVERYONE looked up, down, around. We thought it was more fire crackers at first, but then Ricky reached over, told us all to put our boots on, quickly. And the volley ended. Then people started to panic. The gentlemen behind me looked at me as I was putting on my boots, half laying down, and said “calm down crazy, its just fireworks, jeez”.

That is when the 2nd volley went off, Ricky yelled at us all to get down, flat, & we immediately knew there was someone shooting at us. I remember getting down, but I didn’t lay flat for some reason, thinking- oh my gosh, I need to get flatter than I am now, but my body just wouldn’t let me. That was the 2nd volley. At the end of that volley ( I am still struggling to get my boots on), we turned and tried to run, but the people behind us still weren’t moving. I yelled at the lady “RUN! ITS GUNFIRE! RUUUUUUUUUNNNNN!!!”

Third volley of gunfire hits astroturf

According to Suchomel the shooting was ‘close.”

“[When] the 3rd volley hit… and it was close. Very, very close to us. I could physically see the impact of the bullets on the astro-turf, I could feel the warmth & the passing of bullets. Once that 3rd volley was over, Casie linked her arm into mine, and we decided at that moment we weren’t stopping- we were getting the Hell out of there. And I do mean Hell. We were in literal Hell,” she claimed.

“The gentlemen that mocked me stating it was just fireworks fell to the ground, and he never got back up. The lady behind me (who was now in front of me) who was terrified as I told her to run, never got back up. I actually had to physically step over her body to run (something I am still struggling with, so please don’t attack me. I was absolutely in flight-or-fight mode). There was another person to my right who also wasn’t moving. We ran. I don’t know what direction we ran, I don’t know towards which landmark we ran. We just ran. It was at this time our group got split up. Casie & I were together. Ricky, Cassie & Mendy were together.”

Soon after, according to her account, Suchomel started to panic when she realized ‘100%’ that there was more than one shooter and that multiple gunmen were in the crowd!

“We were rounding some sort of corner maybe- and I looked to the right and I saw this large cowboy sitting down with his legs spread, holding a blood-soaked woman. I thought to myself “we NEED to hide”, but as I looked quickly for somewhere to go, the gunfire once again got closer and closer. We couldn’t hide because they (and I do mean THEY) were chasing us. That exact moment is when I started to really panic. That is the exact moment in which I thought this was it, I was going to die, I was never going to see my family again. So, as we are running, we approach this fence where men are throwing women over, and we ran up to it as they had knocked It down, so we were able to get out. As we crossed the threshold of the venue, my mind went straight to other mass shootings and hearing the victim’s families in my head talk about how they never got to say goodbye. I did not want this for my husband (who was at work) & my grandma (who had my daughter, Scarlett). So, at 10:07pm I called my husband franticly leaving him a voicemail- telling him that I loved him and was in the middle of a shooting & I wasn’t sure if I would make it out alive,” she explained.

“Next, while still running, I called my grandma to tell her the exact same thing. But the gunfire wasn’t stopping this whole time. It wasn’t ceasing. It wasn’t slowing down. And It was directly behind us, following us. Bullets were coming from every direction. Behind us, in front of us, to the side of us. But I know, I just know, that there was someone chasing us. The entire time I felt this way,” she explained “The farther we got from the venue, the closer the gunfire got. I kept looking back expecting to see the gunmen- and I say MEN because there was more than one person. There was more than one gun firing. 100% more than one.”

“As we were running, we kept changing direction, because it felt like no matter what direction we took, we were being followed. So we ended up running in a weird triangular path. The first place I remember getting to was a parking lot, and I told Casie (who was slightly in front of me) we needed to get under one of the trucks. She turned to me and started her way back to me, and that is when the gunfire got even CLOSER than ever before. It was RIGHT THERE. It was within the parking lot. Everyone around us was panicking once again. So we ditched the idea of getting underneath a vehicle, and we continued the run for our lives. If you know me, you know I am a big girl, who is out of shape, and who definitely does not run for any reason. But I can tell you I ran like I have never run before,” she continued in extreme detail.

The 2nd place I remember going by was Hooters- which is where we met back up with the rest of our small group. We ran towards the entrance thinking we could take cover there, but as we got closer, a stampede of people ran out, terrified. We could only conclude that there was another gunman inside of that hotel. This made us even more scared- we had nowhere to go- no one to trust. At some point, we ended up at the airport & even entered the building for safety. Everyone as we entered were screaming at the staff “IS IT SAFE IN HERE?” but we weren’t getting anyone to answer us, so after running about 30 feet into the building, not getting the answers we so desperately needed, we decided it, too, wasn’t a safe spot, so we got out of there quickly and continued running.

After all this running, we were tired, sore & having to stop to cough, gag and even vomit. We ran across an intersection & us & another group of people pleaded with a limo driver to let us in and get us out of there. He was clearly confused & didn’t understand what was going on, so he didn’t let us in. Next, we ran to a taxi van & she was willing to let us in, but she told us her van only held 4 people & she wasn’t going to let the 5 of us in, so we said screw it and continued running. At one point, we ran passed a small liquor store where they so graciously gave us water bottles. We passed UNLV as well.

‘Smaller Hispanic woman’ taunts victims minutes after shooting

Additionally, the eyewitness reported that she was running with her group alongside ‘Tropicana Avenue’ when a ‘dark-colored SUV’ slowed and a ‘smaller Hispanic woman’ emerged from the window to ‘taunt’ her group.

“[She] leans out the window, and she yells something we couldn’t understand in a clearly taunting manner. It really freaked us out, because again, we didn’t know who we could and could not trust,” the eyewitness explained.

Could this ‘smaller Hispanic woman’ have been the same ‘short Hispanic lady’ reported by another eyewitness to have threatened concertgoers 30-45 minutes before the shooting started?

Eight days later Suchomel was found dead in bed by her grandmother who arrived at Schomer’s residence at 8:30 a.m.

According to an Oct. 9 report confirming Suchomel’s death, Suchomel “was taking medication for a pituitary tumor and feared to fall asleep at night after being heavily traumatized by the Oct. 1 massacre.

Suchomel’s death may also be the reason that Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos is receiving 24/7 high-profile security protection.

Note: The actual Facebook post made by Suchomel was removed after the original article began to go viral.

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A total of 10 windows were knocked out of Mandalay Bay the night of the shooting, floors 61, 62, 29, 30, and 32?
By Shepard Ambellas -
October 9, 2017

https://www.intellihub.com/a-total-of-10-windows-were-knocked-out-of-mandalay-bay-the-night-of-the-shooting/

Update: One reader suggests that the dark areas are not windows but rather vents that have always been there. If anyone has direct knowledge of this please comment below so that we can update this post.

LAS VEGAS (INTELLIHUB) — Video footage has surfaced showing the exterior of the Mandalay Bay presumably the morning after the deadly Oct. 1 mass shooting which may confirm that a total of 10 windows were broken out or removed from the MGM-owned building.

If true the discovery would suggest that multiple active shooters were firing light machine guns from several vantage points backing up numerous police and civilian eyewitness accounts which have since been buried by the legacy media.

Astonishingly, the video shows that a window is possibly missing (possible vent) on both the 61st-floor (41) and the 62nd-floor (42) on the buildings east face which correlates with a police officer’s report of gunfire coming from above the 60th floor.
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Several windows can be seen missing on floors 61 and 62 of the Mandalay Bay following the Oct. 1 mass shooting which killed 58 people. (Screenshot via Jon/YouTube)

In order to understand the building’s layout, one must take note how “levels 40-42 (numbered as floors 60–62) are designed as penthouse suites, with a penthouse lounge on level 62 for guests staying in the penthouses. Level 43 (numbered as 64) is the Foundation Room, a restaurant, and bar,” according to Wikipedia.

Additionally, there are 3 windows (possibly vents) appear to have been knocked out of the buildings northwest face on floors 29 and 30 or are missing altogether in addition to the two windows the media reported to be knocked out of Paddock’s room and the adjacent room on the 32nd-floor.
missing windows
Three missing windows on the west side of the Mandalay Bay (north face) can be seen missing around the 29th and 30th floors. Taken the morning after the shooting. (Screenshot via Ruptly TV/YouTube)

Three additional windows (possibly vents) can also be seen which appear to be missing on the buildings west face, one on level 39 and two on level 38 which can be seen in the upper left of the following image.
more windows, mandalay bay
Three additional windows can be seen missing on Mandalay Bay’s west face, one on level 39 and two on level 38. (Screenshot via Jon/YouTube)

It is also evident that one window is broken out of the northeast corner of Stephen Paddock’s room “32-135” and the adjacent suite, both of which are on the 32nd-floor.
more windows, shooter's nest
LAS VEGAS — This image was captured on Oct.2 and shows two broken windows, one in the shooter’s nest on the 32nd-floor and the other in an adjacent room. (Screenshot via Joe/YouTube)

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Their narrative is falling apart fast. If I was Campos, I'd be very careful right now. Once again no mention or tribute to the victims. Instead the lame stream media and communist went straight to gun control.

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Owner of Vegas hotel rejects police timeline of mass shooting Statement adds more confusion to already bizarre case

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Jesus Campos is still missing. He vanished sometime after walking into a health clinic. This is getting to be curious.

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The Mandalay Bay security guard who disappeared last week moments before he was scheduled to break his silence in television interviews has not been seen since he went to a walk-in health clinic, his union president said.

David Hickey of the Security, Police, and Fire Professionals of America (SPFPA) told reporters Friday that he got a text the night before saying Jesus Campos was taken to a UMC Quick Care facility, though he did not specify where or whom the text came from.

A spokesperson at the UMC Quick Care, which has eight locations throughout the Las Vegas area, told Fox News on Monday that they had "heard nothing" about Campos visiting them.

Multiple requests from Fox News for SPFPA to comment on the matter were not returned Monday.

Hickey said he was meeting with MGM officials Thursday afternoon in the hours before Campos’ scheduled television appearances, including one with Fox News.

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Getting weirder and weirder....

VEGAS SHOOTING -- HELICOPTER MUZZLE FLASHES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mS6LH6V_0U

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I've seen that video a few times now. It's hard to tell because the camera is moving, but it sure doesn't look like muzzle flashes to me. I'm pretty sure it's a helicopter, but I think we're seeing the aircraft's lights distorted by the camera lens and the camera movement. I'm pretty sure this was taken by a phone camera.

In any event, it appears to be well out of the range of any door gunner, and I can't imagine a sniper firing from a helicopter (yes, I know they do it in the movies). But yeah, it looks weird.

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The 'security guard' is resurfacing this afternoon on the 'Ellen' show of all things.
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quote:
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The 'security guard' is resurfacing this afternoon on the 'Ellen' show of all things.

It's bad enough to watch Hannity. I absolutely refuse to watch Ellen.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Hawk45:
The 'security guard' is resurfacing this afternoon on the 'Ellen' show of all things.

It's bad enough to watch Hannity. I absolutely refuse to watch Ellen.

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Amen, me to. I am willing to bet Fox will tell anything he says worth hearing.
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Does the fact that he was on Ellen speak volumes? It may be that he decided there was no better day to resurface than pay day from the highest bidder. But this whole thing still stinks. I have not seen one memorial on the victims. No video from the hospital showing people who were severely wounded. No other interviews from survivors who would corroborate multiple shooters. The helicopter in the video shown has strobe anti-collision lights and are required along with position lights by civilian as well as military aircraft. Not muzzle flashes.

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This might or might not be related, but Mandalay Bay is one of the sponsors of the Ellen Show.

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Vegas Survivor Who Died Suddenly Had Planned Group To Expose Cover-Up

Kymberley Suchomel believed media was covering up multiple shooters

‘It Was Clearly Managed’: Tucker Questions Ellen-Campos Interview, Talks Las Vegas Conspiracies After playing a clip of Ellen’s bizarre interview, Tucker said, “Is that really an interview?”

Mandalay Bay Security Guard Emerges on ‘Ellen’ Security guard had bailed on media interviews last week

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I can't see how it's related, but the brother of the Vegas shooter has been arrested on child pornography charges.

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A brother of Las Vegas mass shooter Stephen Paddock was arrested in Los Angeles on Wednesday on suspicion of possessing hundreds of images of child pornography, according to authorities.

Bruce Douglas Paddock, 58, was taken into custody at a nursing facility in the 5300 block of Laurel Canyon Boulevard, in the Valley Village neighborhood, and booked at 8 a.m. Television news footage showed Paddock in a wheelchair being loaded into the back of a van by Los Angeles Police Department officers.

Documents filed Tuesday in Los Angeles County Superior Court outlined 20 criminal charges against Paddock, all related to possession of child pornography or the sexual exploitation of children. The felony complaint for the arrest warrant accused Paddock of having more than 600 pornographic images of children or youths, including 10 or more images showing a child younger than 12.

The investigation of Paddock began after evidence was found in a Sun Valley business where he had been squatting, the LAPD said in a statement. The evidence was found after Paddock was evicted, police said.

Paddock was homeless at the time and couldn't be found, the LAPD said, adding that investigations "recently" tracked him to the North Hollywood facility where he was arrested Wednesday....

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That is weird, but I'm sure there is something to it. And then there is this:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas-shooters-laptop-missing-hard-drive/story?id=50709285

He kills himself but not before making the hard drive magically disappear. Right

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Probably because they need the brother to disappear like the hard drive.

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