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JWF
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the title says it all, who was more effective at guerrilla warfare? what made them so much more or less effective?

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Arguments could be made for either one.

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well whats your opinion? I think the IRA had more potential but the jihad is like cockroaches and wont go down...The IRA got taken down didnt it?

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quote:
Originally posted by JWF:
The IRA got taken down didn't it?

It really is impossible to answer, because the IRA was composed of so many factions that sometimes they were at war with each other. But it could be argued that since Northern Ireland was granted self-government, they were at least partially successful.

Onward and upward,
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Actually, the IRA continued operations until the political wing achieved their goals.

Islam is a global threat.

Islam is a political movement. All muslims support jihad and sharia...regardless of what they tell us kafirs. Per Islam ALL unbelievers will submit, one way or another. If they can't convert you, they will use open warfare. If they aren't strong enough to conquer the target country, they will immigrate and infiltrate until they achieve a dominant majority.

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CSC, I know that Islamic dogma teaches jihad and sharia. But just like Jews and Christians and other religions, modern "reform" practitioners cherry pick what they practice.

It's like comparing the hard core chasidic jews with your average American jew.

The hard core muslims consider more modern muslims to be heretic, and the modern muslims consider those guys assholes and nonrepresentative.

I don't think it's fair to throw them all in one basket.

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I'd befriend a reform muslim over a hard core fire and brimstone "christian" any day. If muslims were around in Jesus' time, I think Jesus would love them just as anyone else...

You either believe in tolerance or you don't.

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quote:
You either believe in tolerance or you don't
"Tolerance" is what got us in the mess we currently find ourselves in.

Our "betters" constantly remind us that we must 'tolerate' every perversion known to man, we must tolerate their "choice" to deny the unborn their right to life, we must tolerate foreign parasites who demand we deny our culture, heritage and way of life while respecting theirs. I could go on for days.

I'm not a "tolerant" person and if that offends the leftists...it sucks to be them because I don't give two shits about their sensitive feelings.

"Islam" means submission to their sociopolitical system who's stated goal is world domination...the establishment of a global caliphate. Any so called muslim who has actually read the Quaran understands this and knows all must submit to sharia and practice jihad. And, 'jihad' doesn't necessarily call for the violent overthrow of another nation. It is also practiced by the gradual infiltration and subversion of a country from within. Once the muslim population reaches a critical mass; they will impose their will on the host nation through the political process. All the while loudly proclaiming theirs is the religion of peace and must be tolerated by the host. Islam is totally incompatible with Western society.

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Tolerance a nice fuzzy word for. Compromise or submit to another's beliefs. Which now here in corporate americkia. If one doest one is forced out.
To thoughs who compromise ie tolerate for the sack of money power or prestige etc.
Thanks for showing to all that you have a price,that you will take to submit.
That used to be called a sellout or a prostitute, but seeing as the true no longer matters. Because words are now hurtful.
To those who tolerate foolishness to be pc. You can kiss my American ass.

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What would Jesus do?

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quote:
Originally posted by The Answer:
What would Jesus do?

I don't presume to speak for Jesus.

But I know what He said He will do upon His return and tolerance wasn't the word He used. Rather, said He would return as a raging lion with a sword to destroy many and would rule with a rod of iron. All of the nations specifically mentioned as being destroyed are Islamic.

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Jesus or any other being didn't get us into the mess of were in.
Complacency did. When one or a group starts down the road of compromise.Where does it end?

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We can agree to disagree. I surely don't judge you all for disagreeing. But in my experience, not all Muslims believe the same. And very certainly, to me, most are not jihadists.

I just think it's dangerous to generalize them and say they all believe anything as a group. I would no more damn all Muslims because some teach hate than I would damn all christians because they don't believe in loving and forgiving all. I think Jesus was clear on these issues. I'll be on the side of judging each by his actions, and not those of others.

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I'm not saying to hate the individual.

I don't care what they chose to believe. However. we are under no obligation to welcome them here or to assimilate into their culture or sociopolitical system. They need to become Americans or stay in their own country.

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