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sinistral
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I got out today to do some shooting. I finally got my BUIS and my red dot zeroed with some American Eagle XM193, with enough M855 ball and M856 tracers left over to do some serious shooting. All of that ammo performed quite reliably. I had 80-100 rounds of Tula steel cased .223 that I've had sitting around for a few months, and let me tell you, I was not impressed. After each shot, the bolt would fail to extract the empty cartridge, which had stuck itself tight inside the chamber. On the rare occasion the shell casing did exract AND eject, the next round would fail to strip from the magazine, and the bolt would pass over it and get stuck halfway. I shot the brass cased ammo both before and after the Tula stuff, and only the Tula performed poorly. I bought the Tula mainly to give it a try...at 25 cents a round, it's worth trying out. After today, though, I know that at 25 cents a round, it's not worth buying again.

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It is good stuff. It causes the occasional jammage in most guns but its great for the range.

What kind of AR-15?

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It's a Kaiser Defense lower, an FNH upper with a colt 20" chrome lined 1x7 twist barrel and a BCM bolt and a tapco stock kit.

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Mix a few rounds in your mags for training purposes.

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I already do that with dummy rounds. But yeah, I have one more mag full, so i'll do that next time I go.

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I have seem tula do the very same thing in bravocompany ,colt, and other quality AR15s. At this point tula is the only ammo i will not buy, the wolf wpa never misses a lick but the tula is something else.

Thats just the 223 stuff, I run the tula 40cal all the time and its not very smooth but always functions

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Saw this at Wal-Mart today bought 6 boxes 120 rounds loaded 2 magazines with tula only. 2 magazines with federal and mixed up 3 more magazines with loose rounds and the tula. Loose rounds are wolf, winchester, federal, and ? I'm going to shoot it tomorrow, using BushMaster. Only ammo I've bought lately I won't buy again is brown bear 308 win. Primers are tough.

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quote:
Originally posted by sharpstick:
I have seem tula do the very same thing in bravocompany ,colt, and other quality AR15s. At this point tula is the only ammo i will not buy, the wolf wpa never misses a lick but the tula is something else.

Thats just the 223 stuff, I run the tula 40cal all the time and its not very smooth but always functions

Tula is said to be the company that makes ammo for Wolf. It's all the same stuff.

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It almost seems that the higher-end AR rifles are more picky about ammo.

I've watched probably a few thousand rounds of Tula ammo cycle through various pistols and rifles with few problems. However, I have seen the occasional FTE, FTF, and even a dud primer.

Just remember that Tula makes cheap Russian steel-cased ammo. Com-bloc firearms were designed from the git-go to use cheap Russian steel-cased ammo. See a trend here?

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quote:
Originally posted by OLM-Medic:
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Originally posted by sharpstick:
I have seem tula do the very same thing in bravocompany ,colt, and other quality AR15s. At this point tula is the only ammo i will not buy, the wolf wpa never misses a lick but the tula is something else.

Thats just the 223 stuff, I run the tula 40cal all the time and its not very smooth but always functions

Tula is said to be the company that makes ammo for Wolf. It's all the same stuff.
Not the WPA, the Black box wolf is the same but the WPA is not I think its made in bellaruse or something like that
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First mag 30 rounds tula 2 ftf. Second mag mix 1 fte (couldn't tell if wolf or tula.) Third mag 30 rds federal all good.. Fourth and fifth mags mixed 3 ftf total. Sixth mag 30 rds federal 1 fte. Seventh mag 30 rounds tula 2 fte 3 ftf. Mix mags I took 40 rnds tula 60 loose rnds mixed them up loaded 3 mags. That leaves 2 boxes tula dumped into loose round box.

Not bad I'd train with it, won't buy it to store.

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Here's my results with steel cased ammo. Monarch - Tumbles and keyholes targets. Tula/Wolf - Failure to eject. Turns out that the steel cased stuff wasn't expanding in the chamber allowing residue to build up around the case, turn hard, and lock the casing in the chamber. I sold all my steel cased ammo at a gun show and only buy American Eagle/Federal brass cased. I have never had a failure to fire/extract since...except when my hammer pin broke. I fixed that with a KNS trigger/hammer pin kit.

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Its good stuff for plinking. I would never use this for SHTF though.

Funny thing is my Bushmaster AR-15 would always have fte and other jams with wolf/tula but a couple thousand rounds later and it runs smoothly.

I shot 700 rounds (in a 2-3 hour timeframe) of Tula and maybe 3 FTE's. Compared to in the past when every couple rounds it would FTE.

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(QUOTE) "Turns out that the steel cased stuff wasn't expanding in the chamber allowing residue to build up around the case" I just put the first 40 rds of Tula steel case 308 through my bolt action HOWA at 2 & 300 yrds,some fair groups and point of aim did not change,Cycled through VERY smoothly but I did notice the cases allowed blowby around the neck because they failed to expand in the chamber which would allow carbon build up at a much faster rate. OK for the range or in a pinch,But steel cases rust much faster than brass ones corode,So at 5.99 to 6.99 a box I will stock for range use ,and store the brass cased Nato for field use. My 2 cents SEMPER FI

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